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oldbutnotout 
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 Topic: Switching to a fast boat......possible?Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 12:11am |
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It's hard to say what caused my first disc to pop, but the second one was definitely windsurfing for 3 weeks on an early formula board(ca 2000) and a 9.3 in winds gusting in excess of 20k. I was in The problem with fusions tends to be more stress on each successive level and hence not uncommon for further deterioration over time. Both my surgeons have been rather cool on my continuation of windsurfing. Now if only disc replacement technology was available all those years ago. Anyway, back to the boats, at 90kg what will be the difference between an A-class cat and an F16/18? How would they handle lumpy seas? I was told that all these are sailed at Changi sailing club. A friend has offered to take me out on his Nacra 20 to at least get a feel for it. |
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oldbutnotout
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Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 4:08am |
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By the way, is G.R.F, a former Mistral raceboard sailor/importer or still is? If so i know him from many many years ago when he was battling with the LDC surf team. He wont remember me, biut he will know my former sailing mates. |
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 10:16am |
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Unfortunately replacement discs only last about 30 years and so tend not to be a valid option for a keen sportsman.
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hollandsd
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Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 12:49pm |
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G.R.F is still an importer of Dakine and excocet e.tc gear. I doubt anyone would forget Graham Dan |
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English Dave
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Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 12:58pm |
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If you are looking for short board performance then I
don't think that a Laser or anything with a PY of more than 900 will fit the bill. I would recommend an A-Class cat (PY equivalent is about 680). Very quick upwind and light to move around the boat park. Trapeze so easier on the back than a hiking boat. |
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hurricane
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Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 1:18pm |
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the thing is with the A class its great upwind (prob the best boat on the market up wind) just downwind is tame compared to boats with kites The F18 would be a good choice if a robust boat is needed due to the robust build required by the hull weight rule (180kg all up sailing weight)
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lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
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English Dave
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Posted: 23 Jan 09 at 12:01pm |
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Yeah but in Singapore you can import an A-Class from Oz
and the flat seas are kind to the carbon structure. Because you only have one sail it's easier to "make" the handicap (you are also at the top mark first so you have clear air and tactical advantage d/w to protect your lead). IMHO they are also quicker to rig, which may be important if you are used to w/surfers. That said, I sail a H59sx (come on Webby, finish the new square-top main) and the spinnaker has simply transformed the downwind ride into a proper rock and roll experience. And the F16 Stealth is just a blast downwind with the T-foils. Either way, I suspect that a S/H cat is the way to go if you are looking for high performance without excessive demands on the body. |
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oldbutnotout
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Posted: 26 Jan 09 at 10:58am |
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Hi Guys Took a drive over to Changi sailing club this weekend to take a look. Quite a few cats around. On the notice board I did see an A class and F16 (blade?) for sale. Both around the same price. I must admit that the A-class sort of looked a bit more like my thing, sleek and lots of carbon. If I had no interest in racing, just wanted to blast around in winds that can hit 25K in the NE monsoon and pretty choppy, come back in with a big grin, what would be the choice? Can the A-class be sailed in 10-25K gusty wind and chop as it looks the best choice for the many 0-10k days? One other question, in the SW monsoon, we can get hit by big storms, the winds can be quite violent for a few minutes or longer. If stuck out in one of these can the sail be released enough so that the boat points to wind and can ride it out without capsizing? |
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radixon
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Posted: 26 Jan 09 at 11:45am |
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Can't answer the question but will say as long as you have a change of pants, probably best to ditch the downhaul and keep hold of the tiller but no doubt the waves will top you with the winds too. |
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craiggo
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Posted: 26 Jan 09 at 12:15pm |
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Generally cats lock the mainsail at the top of the mast with a ring on the halyard fitting over a peg at the top of the mast. To get the sail down you haul on the halyard and while holding the tension rotate the mast to release the ring, and then haul it down. A-class dont tend to use halyards, just a super stiff bolt rope, so to hoist the main you just push it up the slot.
In terms of releasing it on the water, I think I'd rather capsize it and sit on the bottom until the wind dies down! I dont have enough knowledge of the F16 such as the blade, but a fairly modern A-class should be fine for what you want and contrary to popular belief seem to be fine with short sharp chop, just ask Nigel Lovett !!! Of the current designs the 'Tool' seems to carry weight well and is less prone to stopping in the waves. Good luck with your quest |
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