laser 4000?

   Had a 4000 and they are a pig to haul out of the water but very rewarding once the wind is up.  Also sailed a 29er and I think they are a great boat, twitchy, responsive, good fun. 
I think the 4000 is more stable, it goes onit's it's ear for a couple of seconds giving you the chance to do omething about it.  You will fall in however and once inverted, takes two people to haul it back up, but if stability is really that important to you, buy a Flying Fifteen.
Both the 4000 and 29er are great boats but as with most things, practice makes perfect - both will be very rewarding with enough time on the boat and all the capsizes will seem worth it once you've got the thing doing what you want in any conditions.

Giles

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glewis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 05 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 79	Post Options Post Reply Quote glewis Report Post Quote Reply Topic: laser 4000? Posted: 10 Nov 06 at 12:58pm
	Had a 4000 and they are a pig to haul out of the water but very rewarding once the wind is up. Also sailed a 29er and I think they are a great boat, twitchy, responsive, good fun. I think the 4000 is more stable, it goes onit's it's ear for a couple of seconds giving you the chance to do omething about it. You will fall in however and once inverted, takes two people to haul it back up, but if stability is really that important to you, buy a Flying Fifteen. Both the 4000 and 29er are great boats but as with most things, practice makes perfect - both will be very rewarding with enough time on the boat and all the capsizes will seem worth it once you've got the thing doing what you want in any conditions. Giles

mathew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Nov 06 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote mathew Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 06 at 10:43am
	Does anyone know which is better for each of the points of sailing?? Im not too worked up on stability nor weight, but performance and speed in all wind conditions and at each point of sailing... which is the best alrounder?? Thanks!!

English Dave Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682	Post Options Post Reply Quote English Dave Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 06 at 11:14am
	If you want average then the PY for a 29er is 924 and a L4000 is 906. But the point is that there is no best all round boat. That's why we all sail different boats. You choose the one that best suits your circumstances, be it cost, size, performance, local fleets, etc.
	English Dave Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700

49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 06 at 1:46pm
	The 4000 is more suited to sailing in displacement mode than the 29er due to tweaking lines for the pole and the difference in hull form. The difference in PYs may be attributed to the fact that the 4000 performs better in lighter winds so it increases the overall performance of the boat over a broader spectrum. Stepped back a few times onto the 4000 from the 49er and it suprised me quite a bit how much wind you could still run deep in and for it to pay, my gut reaction was to hot up and get the crew on the wire. Good thing the crew knew the boat better. The 29er will feel the more livley of the boats although it may not be any quicker.
	Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 Helensburgh S.C Boat Insurance from Noble Marine