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    Posted: 15 Jun 06 at 2:05pm

thank you for all your help everyone.

the guy refuses to accept liability and from what i've heard since i believe he has suggested that i should pay for a tiny crack in his boat to be repaired that i know was there before the incident as he pulled a simillar stunt on my training partner a while back and got off with it by retiring when he was protested.   

    even so i guess on reflection i really should have protested him just the club policy on it seems rather stale. because my club doesn't get a lot of protests our protest comittee is the three most expeirenced racing sailors on the club comittee available. there were only two there that day not involved in the incident. Maybe i should bring it up in the AGM this year.

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If you have his details (or can get them from the membership secretary) pass them on to your insurance company.

In this case because there was damage to your boat a protest should have been heard. The losing parties insurance company has to admit liability then as blame has been apportioned.

The thing is to shout protest then leave it at that and discuss it later.

If he expects you to pay just tell his insurance company you were racing, you were on starboard, he was on port, he took no avoiding action and cite the GP14 helm as a witness (if they are willing).

He really does not have a leg to stand on!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 06 at 2:52pm

Originally posted by laser47

the guy refuses to accept liability

Does he give a reason?  Either there is more to this than meets the eye or the guy is completely out of order.

If your club has class captains, I'd have a word. The club should be able to exert some pressure on him.

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote gordon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 06 at 2:56pm

If this RS sailor is making a habit of unfair sailing and, it would seem, defrauding insurance companies, it is time to do something about it.

 

Learn the rules, go on any training courses that may be available, volunteer for protest committee work, make a habit of protesting when other boats infinge you, try and persuade an RYA judge to run rules evenings at the club. And every time your friend infringes a rule protest and go ahead with the protest, especially if he does not takes a penalty immediately.

If you can find a qualified judge who can spend the time get him out on the water for a day. If he whistles every time he sees an infringement and then explains what he saw and the rules involved this draws members attention to the rules. I'd do it myself, with pleasure, but there is the Irish Sea in the way.

 

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