Omega feedback

   Wow. You can really *feel* the vitriol in this topic!    I can't believe 

we're talking about the same boat. 

Carshalton, surely your suppositions about owners not going out in 

anything above F3 say more about the type of person you imagine owning 

an Omega than the boat itself. 

As an Omega owner who has enjoyed taking her out in plenty occasions 

with wind >F4, I can reassure you that she remains well balanced with a 

nice light tiller as the wind picks up. I've had 4 newbie crew in her in 

'interesting' F6 conditions without them being spooked. I find the Omega 

performs the role of the safe, speedy, spacious load carrier really rather 

well. We've seen talk of the rig coming down in an F9. I'd never 

intentionally be out in that, and to be honest, if you were flying any 

amount of canvas in any dinghy with an F9 blowing, you'd be doing well 

to keep her upright. To be honest, I think this may be at the crux of the 

problem here. Perhaps we have different expectations of what the Omega 

should do.

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stuartblair Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 11 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote stuartblair Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Omega feedback Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 8:51pm
	Wow. You can really feel the vitriol in this topic! I can't believe we're talking about the same boat. Carshalton, surely your suppositions about owners not going out in anything above F3 say more about the type of person you imagine owning an Omega than the boat itself. As an Omega owner who has enjoyed taking her out in plenty occasions with wind >F4, I can reassure you that she remains well balanced with a nice light tiller as the wind picks up. I've had 4 newbie crew in her in 'interesting' F6 conditions without them being spooked. I find the Omega performs the role of the safe, speedy, spacious load carrier really rather well. We've seen talk of the rig coming down in an F9. I'd never intentionally be out in that, and to be honest, if you were flying any amount of canvas in any dinghy with an F9 blowing, you'd be doing well to keep her upright. To be honest, I think this may be at the crux of the problem here. Perhaps we have different expectations of what the Omega should do.

olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 06 at 10:26am
	at our club we have boats. to be honest they are horriable and the fittings are poor quality. ours had to go back and be fixed after a small collision. when you capsize them they are impossiable to get up on the centerboard. and we had righting lines fitted and these just pulled out. you cant pull the main sheet in and the sails are bad quality. the kite also dosent seem to fit in the bag. overall a crap boat. seems a bit harsh but they are truly awful
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BBSCFaithfull Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251	Post Options Post Reply Quote BBSCFaithfull Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 06 at 4:28pm
	Thank the good lord someone agress with me!!!
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olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 06 at 4:34pm
	how can people say that the omega is a joy to sail. i mean it is a waste of plastic. you can feel it flex all of the time. i was teaching 14 yr olds in a force 4 and they couldnt get the main in i had to trim it all of the time. i was wanting a winch and coffee grinder. the kite is a joke it just is full and Crap. god help anyone one who sails in them. if you are looking at a boat of this size then the wayfarer is good or the stratos is a nice asymertic.
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sw67 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 06 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote sw67 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 06 at 4:56pm
	I have been using the magno for 2.5 years without any problems. It has had 1 self bailer replaced and thats it It has hyde sails . holt , ronstan , clamcleat and selden hardware. It sails well and is very light on the controls. The only negative is it will not hove to ( spins ) and i can not get on the centreboard without pulling the boat upright If topper have got the omega so wrong try the magno It cost me £3500 new and has only lost about 5-600 in the last 3 years Stephen

Sumo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 10 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 144	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sumo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 06 at 5:41pm
	Even Topper must reckon the Omega is not quite right or why would they have brought out the Xenon? Omega & nbsp;Xenon Length 4.64 &n bsp; 4.5 Beam 1.83 2.0 Main 11.50 & nbsp; 12.00 Jib &nb sp; 3.50 &n bsp; 3.50 Gen 12.75 & nbsp; 12.75 Hull &n bsp; 140 118

tack'ho Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100	Post Options Post Reply Quote tack'ho Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Feb 06 at 9:41am
	Just a thought Surely a bit of flex in a training/recreational boat...so what? Mains to hard to pull in a F6 or F9, suprise suprise! try rigging up and extra fall to get more purchase. And if its such a awful boat, why on earth did you take in out instead of a cherub in a F9. Because if you'd taken the cherub it would have come back a driftwood?carbon! The fittings i can't comment on but get some perspective it's horses for courses!
	I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!

Strawberry Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337	Post Options Post Reply Quote Strawberry Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Feb 06 at 12:16pm
	Urrrrr, let's leave Cherubs out of this!
	Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry

olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Feb 06 at 3:34pm
	it is not a little flex it is like sitting on a sofa. and the main is hard to pull in in light winds. sw67 well done for keeping th magno upright i found them very tippy and slid out behind me ( no comment on my sailing ability)
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neilboys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote neilboys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 06 at 7:12pm
	Many thanks for all the advice.........I think its a case of 'horses for courses' (probably depending on how agile you as you get older !). I have manged to get reasonably priced Stratos but I think the Omega is a good boat for what it trys to be..... a roomy family boat with the option for bit of fun