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flip2892 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Hi folks,
I'm after a bit of help selecting the right boat so I'll give you all the info I can that might help you to help us. If I've missed anything then let me know and I'll add it. I used to sail and race a Laser many years ago as a teenager.... I'm now 40 and sold it over 2 decades ago. I'm a very very active 40 year old and physically fit. I still compete at judo and physically train at least 7 hours a week. I fight in the under 81kgs category so hover in that weight bracket. My eldest son has begun sailing Laser Picos through his school over the last few months and is really loving it. He fights in the under 56kg category but is at that stage where he is growing fast so seems to go up a weight band between every comp' these days! He and I would like to buy a boat that we can both sail together and at times alone (probably not often alone though). Neither of us are interested in competing really at this stage. Both of us want to go as fast as possible and work hard....we're both still kids in that respect! There are a couple of clubs local to us at Farmoor and Standlake, Oxfordshire and I used to be a member of Standlake when I had my Laser. I really don't want to spend a lot until we decide that we both want to continue sailing for a few years and then I'd be happy to make an investment. We have so many hobbies and sports and so little time over all. Again this leads me away from racing as we have other loves that will undoubtedly come first. (sorry people) My skills at DIY in fibreglass and woodwork are pretty good but I'm leaning towards GRP overall for it's longevity and ease of maintaining, as long as you don't smash it too hard. I think I'd like something with a main sail, Jib and probably a spinnaker to learn as I've never sailed with one. Sorry for all the info and long post but hope this will help you to help us make a sensible decision and save you from having to ask too many questions. All advice is gratefully received. Thanks in advance folks. Flip2892 |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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My advice these days is to either get a two handed boat or a singlehanded boat and forget about something that attempts to do both, because it will probably do neither well. Instead join a club that has club owned boats that you can hire by the day, so on the rare occasions when you want to sail the opposite to the regular boat then you rent one out. Oxford SC at Farmoor appear to have a reasonable selection of club boats.
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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Whats your budget? Dont forget clothing, that can also add up.
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flip2892 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Hi folks and thanks for the replies so far. Sorry for taking my time to get back to you but work gets in the way of life as always.
I guess my budget is between £750 and £1500 depending on what I have to put into it to get it sorted. I do like a little project, in fact the wife provisionally named our Dory boat "Not another project" when I arrived home with her! As far as clothing is concerned we have wetsuits, boots, buoyancy aids etc from kayaking which I'd hoped would get us started? I guess the club boats would be a good place to start and 'test the water' before 'splashing out'....ooooh two loose puns in one sentence....I'm on fire tonight :) (SAD) Any further suggestions? Thanks once again for the advice so far. Flip2892 |
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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At your combined current weight, price requirements, construction, sail plan I would suggest a Laser II
It has the simplicity of the laser, can get athletic in a blow, has a spinnaker (symmetric) that can be removed if you don't need it. On a 3 sail reach in anything more than a force 3 is damn good fun, it's like a go-cart with a trapeze. The spinnaker does require a higher level of skill, dexterity and teamwork than most of the modern boats, a skill worth learning IMO though. It's easyish to repair apart from damage to the front and rear of the dagger board slot, look out for that if you buy one. Down side: there is currently no active class association so Open events are not an option. A good boat for club racing should you decide to go down that route. They can be an arse in shifty gusty conditions so small pond clubs are not ideal for this boat. The asymmetric version of the Laser II (Laser 3000 (edited to correct typo)) is another option. Edited by transient - 05 Dec 15 at 4:04pm |
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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I think you meant Laser 3000 - very different to the 2000 !
As "We have so many hobbies and sports and so little time over all." are you sure that you have time to look after and sail a dinghy ?. Regardless of the chose class dinghies are not like kayaks, canoes, surfboards etc that can just pick up and use if and when you feel like it and expect things to be fine. They need storage, maintenance etc Club dinghy parks are full of boats that people thought they would use but simply find that the time required is too much ? |
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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aye, indeed I did. Thank you that man :-)
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Something like an Iso, Buzz or L4000 is lots of thrills for not much money these days.
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flip2892 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Again thanks for the advice and suggestions. Rich96 thanks for your advice and this is something I do need to think about carefully and discuss with the eldest.
Thanks Flip2892 |
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