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skylark12 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Hi,
I'm 15 and currently sail a topper but I'm looking for something more exciting, double or singlehanded. The trouble is I'm 5'2 and only weigh 45kg. Budget is about £1,500. Any ideas welcome! Thanks |
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rogue ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 978 |
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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RS600 and use the reefed rig and wide wings (still probably too light though)
29er helm with heavy crew 420 helm with heavy crew Feva Laser Radial or 4.7 Byte Depends what you define exciting as. Lasers and Bytes aren't exactly adrenaline machines, but they aren't slow either. 29ers and 600s are very much high performance boats, while I gather the 420 is in the middle. This list is by no means exhaustive. 29ers are normally beyond £1500, but *VERY* occasionally one turns up at that price. 420s range from a few hundred to £7000, with older ones being cheap but often in poor condition and quite uncompetitive. They go floppy and gain weight, Fevas I don't know what they cost, have a look on apolloduck.co.uk You could always share a 29er, Feva or 420 with someone else. Lasers , bytes and 600s all regularly fall in that price range, but the 600 might still be too overpowered at that weight. I sometimes struggle upwind at 60kg, and find sailing it in big waves incredibly tough since I have so little momentum (although my technique isn't exactly great either). The 600 and the 29er are the hardest boats to sail (i.e. keep upright. All boats are hard to sail fast) on that list. Perhaps if you tell us where you sail and how experienced you are someone can offer some more specific advice. If you have a crew in mind and know their weight then it would be easier to decide on a double hander. You'd need them to be at least 60kg for a 29er or 420, probably 40kg for a Feva (although I'm not sure about the Feva). There's a whole range of other boats around. If there's any big fleets at your club, I suggest considering those since it makes handicap racing a whole lot more fun to be in a proper fleet.
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Probably!!!!!!!!!!!!! God you are having a laugh! |
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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Ok, definitely.
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skylark12 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Thank you, if its any help I sail on a tidal estuary and on the sea as well. I've sailed a range of classes: topper, comet trio, cherub, flipper scow and a few others. pretty sure I would spend more time swimming than sailing in a 600 though! My potential crew would almost certainly be less than 60kg.
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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I've got to say it. But the boat you would love would be a Farr 3.7. Get your Dad to make one for you. He'll love it, you can help him.
Other than that... ever thought of a Splash. |
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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If it's on the sea the 600's a definite no-go, you might have just about managed on a lake since the winds are lighter and it's not as wavey. A 420 would probably be a good bet, not sailed one myself but a lot of people who sail them seem to love them. Depends if <60 means 55kg or 40kg, since with 55 and a lot of depowering you might manage, with 40 you simply wouldn't be able to be in any way competitive. Obviously the Feva's a good bet, I also sail on an estuary/sea and we have a massive Feva fleet, but at 15 you might be better off skipping it and hopping straight into a more powerful boat. There's all sorts of things that might be viable, but if there are existing fleets at your club then seriously consider those boats.
All the singlehanders I listed (except the 600) would probably be fine, each has its own ups and downs. Whilst I love sailing the 29er and 600 both in races and just blasting, I do sometimes find myself wishing I could sail the Laser again just because it was so fun to race. Sadly, there's a massive fleet at our club but none ever go out, but the few times we got a number out sailing I found the closeness of the racing really enjoyable. Singlehanding is a different experience to doublehanding, and everyone has different preferences. I like both to an extent, while some people only like one or the other. One thing to bear in mind is that being underweight in a Laser or Byte is probably harder work than being underweight in a 29er; hiking hard on your own is a lot of work, whilst if the 29er's overpowered you can always whack on the downhaul and depower and then tell the crew to keep it flat. If you want to be really competitive then hiking's a must in everything, but it's possible to get away with sitting up a bit in the 29er and still doing quite well, but on a Laser-type boat it's hiking or losing. You're right on the bottom end of Radial weight (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong on that) and around the top half of 4.7 weight (again, can't remember the figures exactly). Hope that's helpful, I'm sure someone will say it's a cardinal sin to stop hiking in a 29er but the main thing is to have some fun while you do it. Just have a look round, and if you can really define what you want (e.g. singlehanded hiker, doublehanded single trapeze) then you can start to narrow down. |
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Our lightest 600 sailor in the circuit come in around 65 kg. Lightening fast downwind and trapezing well before the heavy weights, but once everyone is wiring then its bigger is a bit better.
I reckon a Farr 3.7 would be a more attainable challenge. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Might a Europe be a possibility? light, interesting tweaky little boats.
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