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    Posted: 15 May 11 at 12:57pm
hi. I am a 5 foot 10 tall 16 stone chap thats not very good at sailing. I have had a go with a supernova and spend more time in the water then on it reason i think little room in the cockpit for me. I don,t realy want a solo, and have sailed a laser 2000 with a crew member and loved the boat, space easy controls and sable.
I have been told to look for an rs vario, but as there is not one at my club and not wishing to spend 1000,s on something i will nto like. can anyone please please let me know what is good and not so good about the vario. also do laser make a single hander that is as good as the laser 2000.
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In terms of Lasers, you might want to try the Laser 16 or Laser 13.
I've sailed both and loved them! with respect to single handers, the laser satandard or radial might be to your liking. You could also try a 420 if you wouldnt mind having a crew....?
Are you only looking for a dinghy or a multihull?
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At 16 stone you could try the rooster 8.1 rig.  
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As above, try and get a test sail in a rooster 8.1.  Otherwise you would be ideal for a phantom.

Try to sail as many boats as you can and you will quickly build up an idea of what you enjoy sailing most.  The other option is to try and crew for someone else at your club to build up experience (and cash) to buy the boat you want. 
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Blaze halo might be option if you have a bit of cash.
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chaps, sorry put please read my post, I am looking for a single hander dinghy not a lazer 13 or 16 or 420. I am not a very good sailer so a phantom would be far to much for me to handle, I take it that the rooster 8.1 is for the laser 1 which i think would be going backwards from the supernova.
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in what way do you mean a backwards step from a supernova?
In terms of speed the 8.1 is probably faster and if needed to on a realy windy day you could change to the laser standard sail. If price was an issue then you are going to be able to pick up a laser + 8.1 rig for cheaper than a supernova (in good condition). The laser with all of the differnt rig options would probably make it more managable for you if you dont count your self as the best sailer.  
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I cant imagine that putting a big rig on a laser is a great idea for a novice. The vareo may well be exactly what you want. It is a lot more roomy than a laser - both cockpit and boom clearance . Although it comes with an asymmetric kite you dont need to deploy it til you feel you are comfortable. As a boat it sails pretty well, although it can make hard work of upwind legs. It is an absolute hoot reaching with the kite up. 
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thanks sawman, I need roomy as i have a bad knee. when you say that the vario is hard work up wind, how bad is it. also what about the lazer vago, i know it can be sailed single and there are smaller sails available. have you any views on this boat.
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To be honest if you fall in regularly in a simple boat like a Supernova you would be better to gain more on the water experience before you consider changing class. Almost anything suitable is probably going to be as if not more tippy that a Supernova.

Re suitable single handers for a 16 stone person - unfortunately there aren't that many.  The Finn and Phantom are the obvious ones. Some say the Blaze Halo may suit, personally I'm unconvinced the Blaze hull is a great weight carrier, great boat that it is for lighter crews. I haven't sailed a Vareo so can't comment directly, though there have been some very mixed reviews on here.

On the other hand, if not falling in is more important than anything else you should consider something with a smaller sail, yes you'll be under-powered a lot of the time but you won't fall in as much. There are many single handers that may suit such as a Solo, the big issue I've found with also being pretty big and heavy is to find a class with a decent sized cockpit otherwise you'll be cramped and uncomfortable.
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