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    Posted: 28 Apr 05 at 5:57pm

Originally posted by AndrewM

Doing this in company of 45 other boats all doing the same (so looking down their transoms not where they are going) is part of what makes Merlin Salcombe week such an enjoyable time for the spectators 

Oh yes, the view from the SYC terrace is definitely part of the experience. It is so much easier to judge the line from up there!

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I think there is plenty of good stuff here and Andrew is right you sail rudderless on a run until you're in deep water then luff up - stop and fix the rudder. Its far harder to get off a beach in heavy waves without the rudder.

Few extra tips - get crew to sit in the middle so there is only one person moving their weight about to steer.

Adjust the centreboard to balance the sails.

Pull the jib in slightly more than you need and adjust the main to steer. If you have speed on just heel the boat to leeward to luff and let both sails flog

There is an interesting article in the latest Wavelength on rudderless sailing - perhaps Y&Y could also do one as they reach a wider audience.

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Good grief you lot!  80% of Merlins have fixed rudders.

a) You can't put the rudder on when the boat is moving at any speed

b) You can't put the rudder on when the boat is on a run.

So - set off, crew in boat, helm getting in over transom, 1/3 -1/2 board, on close reach, pull in jib to bear away, pull in main to luff up, heel boat for finer adjustments.  When in deep enough water slowly let off jib, boat heads up a bit & stops.  Lean over back, put on rudder.

Make sure your lower pintle is a little longer than the top one so you can get the rudder on it 1st then wiggle it to fit the top one

Doing this in company of 45 other boats all doing the same (so looking down their transoms not where they are going) is part of what makes Merlin Salcombe week such an enjoyable time for the spectators 

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My personal experience is that when close hauled balancing the sails is more important than boat balance, but the more downwind you go the more improtant boat balance becomes. Whilst on a run just let the sails go and concentrate on balancing the boat, ensuring you've always got a significant amount of windward heel. If its windy you may find luffing up a bit will make getting the rudder on easier, but in light airs you shouldn't have too much trouble.

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or simply sail out with only the jib up, one in clear water let it fly round up and hoist the main. easy peasy
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 05 at 8:30am

 you can hold the rudder stock and steer with the blade tip(so it does not load up to much) Centre board position is important to have the right hight as to little and the boat slips sideways makeing it difficult to put the rudder on or on a run flip. to much and the boat will tack. You could on a run have no board and slip sideways but its a problem if you have to avoid someone. also you can also stand on the bow keep the boat head to wind and steer by leaning but not if you have a light weight deck.

 

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Originally posted by stuarthop

lol cheers guys had a bit of a go tonight.. we're fine launching onto a reach and close hauled but we couldn't get the hang of launching onto a run because as soon as the jib pulled the boat round onto the run the main filled and turned us round towards the bank.

Has any one got any tips for launching onto a run?

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Sail out backwards with no rudder - you can use the jib for drive and the main to steer.  Once you are far enough out, put the rudder on and away you go.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote stuarthop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 9:50pm
i sail a scorpion, furling the jibs not possible

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jamesint505 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 9:47pm
The rudder on my contender broke so I taped it up launching was fine just head to wind .Anyway I wasnt very good at sailing it and got too close to the bank and crunch in the weeds ha ha!!!anyway managed to get out again after much cursing and had a nightmare landing aswell needless to say I have now fixed the rudder!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote KnightMare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 9:42pm

I would say heel the boat to counteract the way the boat wants to turn.
If launching on a dead run you could balance jib against main (add some heel) and it should stay on track.

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