Buying a hobie tiger..maybe

   Hi Mickey Mouse,

We were at the Topcat demo at C.S.S.C. Nice day, the coast guard was there with all the bits and pieces on show, they also had lots of interesting things to talk about and what they get up too.

I found the people to be very friendly at C.S.S.C., they made us and others  
Very welcome there. I must think some more about changing clubs, especially if we get a Topcat. I’m back there with my wife and son to make a decision soon.

We tried out both the K1 and K2 several times; the wind was 3-4 North West. I found both boats easy as each other to sail, the handling was light and tacking it was quick to respond. 

We tried hard to get the nose to bury, A bit more wind and I think it would go, but from the look of the design, it will come straight back up. We could not believe how strong and robust it was, with no square edges and everything rounded off nicely,
We couldn’t even see were the joins were and had to be told!

To be able to roll the jib was another good point for us. It’s hard work, trying to do this in a F4 plus, jib sheets in one hand and trying to roll the jib around the stay in the other, I’ve had one or two fat lips in doing this . What I can’t understand is why the dagger rudder design is not used on other cats.

We were coming in across the bottom of the jetty with the rudders half down and missed it. I was waiting for the crunch, but there was nothing. There couldn’t have been 18 inches of water under us. So we harden up and went about sailed nicely back to the jetty, pointed it into the wind and got off: Piece of cake. The rudders were half down.

Our only problem is what to buy, a K2 or K1.The K1 with reacher in the end will be ok for us, but for my wife and kids, I think the K2 will be the one for all of us, we will decide at the next demonstration.        

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calistow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 18 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote calistow Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Buying a hobie tiger..maybe Posted: 22 Jun 05 at 10:10pm
	Hi Mickey Mouse, We were at the Topcat demo at C.S.S.C. Nice day, the coast guard was there with all the bits and pieces on show, they also had lots of interesting things to talk about and what they get up too. I found the people to be very friendly at C.S.S.C., they made us and others Very welcome there. I must think some more about changing clubs, especially if we get a Topcat. I’m back there with my wife and son to make a decision soon. We tried out both the K1 and K2 several times; the wind was 3-4 North West. I found both boats easy as each other to sail, the handling was light and tacking it was quick to respond. We tried hard to get the nose to bury, A bit more wind and I think it would go, but from the look of the design, it will come straight back up. We could not believe how strong and robust it was, with no square edges and everything rounded off nicely, We couldn’t even see were the joins were and had to be told! To be able to roll the jib was another good point for us. It’s hard work, trying to do this in a F4 plus, jib sheets in one hand and trying to roll the jib around the stay in the other, I’ve had one or two fat lips in doing this . What I can’t understand is why the dagger rudder design is not used on other cats. We were coming in across the bottom of the jetty with the rudders half down and missed it. I was waiting for the crunch, but there was nothing. There couldn’t have been 18 inches of water under us. So we harden up and went about sailed nicely back to the jetty, pointed it into the wind and got off: Piece of cake. The rudders were half down. Our only problem is what to buy, a K2 or K1.The K1 with reacher in the end will be ok for us, but for my wife and kids, I think the K2 will be the one for all of us, we will decide at the next demonstration.

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 9:05pm
	Hi castelli, your post 8 th of June. By the looks of it, we cats sailors all like to have one over the top, so don`t worry about it to much. Sounds to me, that you prefer cruiseing more than racing. I would suggested you race at your club a bit more, for the experience. And have more contact with the cat sailors, for there info. When you don´t get that info, then I would think about changing my club. You said it yourself. C.S.S.C. sounds like a good bunch of guys. If you were thinking of buying a Topcat, then I would go for the K2, you have no problems racing with that extra crat of beer you have on board. Schrs rating K2 = 1,25, Dart 18 = 1,18. You should be slower than them on H/C. But I have no problem keeping with them. It`s also good for cruising about. There`s lots of room on board and nothing on the trampolin getting in the way. Not forgetting it`s twin trapez, lots of fun. Also they have a big space in each hull for the beer. But when you would like more power the K1 is the same design as the K2, but 30 cm longer and with a reacher. Schrs 1,05 try both at the demo C.S.S.C. Have a chat with Mike A. or Mike H., they will put you right. Tipp: when you buy from them at C.S.S.C. demo and help in giving test sail to poss. buyers, then you will get a good discound. I know this first hand. Mickeymouse

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 7:39pm
	Tornado has a problem. I hope the Rum worked, when not try Jack Daniels, but when you find the answer let us know. I wait and stick to my beer. Mickeymouse

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 7:36pm
	Yeah Gozzza, your two Topcat demo guys Mike&Mike stop over for a night by me and my girl on the way to England. Boy, what a night. Who let them loose? They had all with them incl. the german beer. But they did look at YandY Formular and asked me, would you know if the YandY team are coming to C.S.S.C. Topcat demo for a test sail. They had no replays from there invitation to the demo. Mickeymouse

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 7:28pm
	Hi hurricane, don`t stop me now, I`m on a roll. Nothing on paper at the moment, but I think it`s coming. I make a lot with Topcat and I like the simple things in life. Two weeks ago in Dubai Topcat center, sailing then straight to Egypt Topcatcenter,sailing they were in Marocco last week and now I am sunburned, but I like the life. But must come back here to get on with my own work Mickemouse Catch you later, Mickeymouse

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 6:32pm
	Gozzza wrote I wonder... I no of one that gave it up and went fishing. Now he`s twice the size, my waste is 42 " and I`m in the right sport and would not stop cat sailing for all your fish and chips in England. But my Doc said, I must stop or cut down on the alcohol. Horatio should di the same too it doesn`t do his girlfriend any favours. Mickeymouse

hurricane Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote hurricane Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 6:28pm
	you so work for top cat admit it !
	lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 6:26pm
	Gm wrote wrong sport. Yeah, shotput or toss the kayber, sounds about right for the big guys. But it`s only single handed. Sorry Castello couldn`t stop myself. But got you back for Topcat = a tin of catfood . Posted 18. of May. What is 15 stone in kilos anyway? Mickeymouse

mickymouse Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote mickymouse Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 6:18pm
	Hurricane wrote: wrong fleet Yeah, the budweiser fleet is best, acording to horatio posted 22.05. 3. 04a.m./08. June . but you`re right again, castello is in the wrong fleet. I was going to suggest hurricane or tornado to calistow, something a little bigger. But they are only 25% or so out for racing. The rest is cruiesing about, it's poss. the high performance cats are not right for them, but "Topcat" is. You know I`m into Topcat . Mickeymouse

horatio Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 19 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote horatio Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 8:31pm
	as everyone knows, reality is an illusion created by lack of alcohol. luckily I fell off the wagon last weekend (with a big bump) and i'm under no such illusions anymore. god save bud weiser and jack daniels. actually ive found that you can drink as much as you like long as you don't eat anything and i've never gone over 12 stone. my crew is putting on weight though, she's either sneaking in the odd extra snickers bar or its her age - will have to trade her in for a newer model...... .....then again her daddy is the commodore and i might have to pay for my boat parking if i get on his wrong side.