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    Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 10:05am

I sailed away from home for the first time this last weekend. Had a great time, competed in 3 races back to back, very long day on the water, came home very knackered but pleased with myself. The only downer on the day was that some scumbag sailor has stolen my brand new Rooster Pro hikers from the changing room! Naturally I've contacted the hosting club & emailed the visiting clubs secs, to give anyone the oportunity to contact me if they inadvertantly picked them up, but....... zilch........ . So a hard lesson learned. Even in a sport such as ours with the cameraderie that I've exerienced in my fairly short sailing career, there are people that we mix with who will happily steal your wet clobber after sailing. I AM VERY BL**DY ANGRY!!! AND SAD....Especially as the event was to raise money for the local hospice !!!! So...... if I see anyone locally striding about in slightly used new Rooster hikers, beware, I'll be watching you.............

Seems you cant trust anyone. So....bear in mind these are people we all mix with, but how do you root them out??  Yes, I know they are a minority & mostly, we wouldn't steal fom each other but..........BL**DY HELL!! 

So, tell me - Anyone else experienced this sort of thing at their club & events they've attended?? What will go missing if you leave it for a second??

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I would doubt it's another sailor that's taken them, more likely that some scumbag got into the club and nicked them to flog on fleabay - or possibly a sailor picked them up by mistake and took them home - and then finds 2 pairs in their bags.

In 20 odd years of bimbling around various OM circuits I've only had a couple of issues £20 in cash nicked from my wallet left in the changing rooms of Royal Lym - my stupidity really. Much more seriously my crews car got broken into at datchet when rigging up for an OM and got laptop phone, ipod etc stolen - major bummer. CCTV was hopeless and the road-blocker was broken.  I've never really liked datchet anyway and that was the final straw for me - not been back.

Another 4k sailor got a couple of hundred euros nicked from the euros in Cagliari, but he'd just left them in a bag under his cover on the beach and was closest to the 'public area'. There was a day at burghfield last season where some car keys got nicked from the changing rooms and then the car stolen from outside!

I think 'yachties' need to accept they are seen as 'well off' by the pikies and so are considered fair game - make sure you leave your valuables somewhere safe - lots of clubs now have lockers for valuable which helps, just make sure you leave the car keys in there as well!
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I lost my watch while I was in the shower at a well known east coast club some years ago.  That made me very cross.  At my small, local club (Hunts) things are left lying about quite routinely, whereas I'm not sure I would be so cavalier at Grafham.  At neither club would I be too careless if the place was open to the public for an open day or some such.

Sounds awful doesn't it, but having just had my car nicked from outside my house while the other half was on the neighbour's doorstep talking to the neighbour, then meaning no car for the Worlds, I have learned to TRUST NO ONE...

....especially not the other half with my car keys....

The other problem I think we all encounter is that of the bung pincher; small minded, petty thievery that really irritates.
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had my safety knife stolen from out of my buoyancy aid, and it was tied on!  Guess they didnt want me to sink but didnt care if I got tangled...
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A clubmate had his Albacore stolen after the Internationals at Largs this year. It was packed up after the event and left at the club while they had a few days holiday.  When they got back there it was gone, also stolen was another boats mast and a couple of mainsails.

Perhaps we are too trusting, in the vast majority of cases the trust is justified, but all it takes is one scumbag to ruin it for everyone.

If you see a Wooden Albacore for sail that matches the description below, please call the police or crimestoppers.

http://www.stolenboats.org.uk/view.php3?q=3070

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skiffybob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 12:14pm

This sort of thing saddens me greatly.

I guess the view that you have to take is that 99% of people in our sport are good, honest folk, and what we mustn't do is let the other 1% bring it down.

If you take the "trust no-one" view, then I doubt you'll enjoy the events, as you'll constantly be looking over you shoulder.

And if someone i caught nicking stuff, I would recommend that that person is banned by the class from attending future events.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 12:28pm

I would cling to the knowledge that it is very rare and was hopefully an honest mistake.  The visiting club secrataries probably won't have had time to contact their own sailors yet, and quite possibly someone somewhere was perplexed to put two sets of hikers in the washing machine and doesn't know who to contact. I do hope it doesn't put you off doing other Opens.

Back in the 1980's there was a member of our club who was caught taking money out of wallets in the changing rooms.  I believe he may even have been a copper. 

Just a few weeks back when I tested the RS100 at Hayling, I went into the shower and hung my towel on the peg.  I got out of the shower and thought someone had taken my towel.  After 5 minutes of wandering naked around the changing rooms it dawned on me that the towel had fallen off the peg into the bin below...

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Were the hikers nicked out of your bag or were they left hanging round to dry in the changing room? I never leave gear round in the changing room to drip, it goes straight in my wet bag and hopefully that stops people mistakenily taking it away.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Captain Morgan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 1:34pm

After having a cheapo sailing watch stolen from in the changing room, I'm much more careful. Like they say, don't tempt 'em and they won't think about nicking it.

Any club which has the potential for public/visitor access is likely to be higher risk than a small locals' club where everyone knows each other well(?)

Saying that, the level of "petty" but infuriating theft is far lower than the level of mistakenly picked up kit in our club - It might be worth asking after a week or two, as some infrequent sailors often return accidentally acquired items to lost property some weeks later.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote didlydon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 09 at 1:57pm
The hikers were left on the floor of a busy changing room where the showers were. As it was a busy event with more sailors than room, you finished off getting dressed & packed elsewhere. After packing my boat & gear away, I got home & went to wash it all out & it was then that I noticed no hikers. I returned to the club, after I guess an hour or so, but unfortuantly, nothing there. So..... I guess it was too tempting for sailors showering after me to leave them alone, hang em on a hook till the owner came back or otherwise.......... Yes, I know I was bloody foolish to leave em laying there............. Lesson learned. My faith in humanity will be restored if somebody suddenly says - hey these aren't mine..........
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