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423zero 
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 Topic: TasarPosted: 08 Sep 23 at 3:50pm |
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Hi Cindy, the topic you have posted on is from 2009. Welcome to the forum.
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Cindy McGrail
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Posted: 04 Sep 23 at 1:39pm |
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Hi Charlie,
I have a LasarRainbow "One design" for sale for £650. Bereavement sale. More info Cindy 07801 788923 |
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damp_freddie
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Posted: 06 Sep 09 at 9:40pm |
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Tasars are well suited to shifty conditions because:
1) no kite to go up and down all the time, and no trap to be in and out on. 2) because they can plane on all points of sailing and do so a lot earlier on the fetch than many much faster PY boats (ie when you suddenly lay the windward mark half way up the course!) In terms of water line racing though you need a lot of finesse to get them moving to their PY, but the best at QMSC would keep up with RS400s upwind. bit more blurb if you are sitting with a coffee: On a very small "pond" you will be at an advantage having no kite, but at a disadvantage in coming in and out of planing mode. It takes time and space to get into upwind planing which you maybe don't have, and they can dig a trench on the dead run in light airs without real fine balance and trim.There is a big bump on the hull's drag curve to climb up and it slides down it quickly! One other good thing is the resale, which is easy enough given a good boat even if it is old. There are pockets of OD racing around the country and interest in the boat with the new mylars. Easy resale is really worth thinking about if you are not sure about a boat, i.e. want to give it a 'fair go' , or want to move on to a sub PY1000 boat later. A lot of other classes, with budget boats means old, worn parts and soft hulls, or in a development class like the NS14, a potentially obselescent boat on your hands. |
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Posted: 01 Sep 09 at 11:50am |
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An NS would be perfect. If you do look to bring one over from Aus, then, with shipping, you would probably have to spend nearer £3k and get an Aero 9 or newer. There have been several people looking at doing this, so I could help co-ordinate something and get a container arranged.
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 01 Sep 09 at 11:31am |
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He had been talking about a Scorp again Paul, He is talking about sailing at Bowmoor this winter. I think Charlie drew the conclusion they may struggle at bowmoor.
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craiggo
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Charlie, I'm suprised given where you used to sail, that you havnt considered a Scorpion.
As you well know they go really well on small shifty lakes like Elton SC. If your other half is competent enough that you'd consider teaching her how to crew a 200 (if you had the cash) then I'm sure she'd pick up the symmetric kite skills no problem. Reasonable 2nd hand Scorps are around for £2kish. Paul Edited by craiggo |
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Pabs
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Posted: 01 Sep 09 at 10:16am |
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I agree with womble12345 you have got no chance sailing a Taser to its PY on a small shifty pond i have tried many times on my shifty pond. The taser is a great boat tho and it is a nice boat to sail when there is a bit of breeze. If you want a fun boat to sail in this is the one i would go with over a lark anyday. for 2k you will get a good one just bare in mind that the mylar sails have been around for a while now and any boat with just one set you find them very tied. I sail a Merlin and i would recomend it lots a phone for a small pond |
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womble12345
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Posted: 31 Aug 09 at 9:14pm |
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In my opinion the Tasar is very hard to sail to yardstick on a shifty pond, they have a low PY so are expected to be faster than things like Larks and 200s but IMHO they will only perform to handicap if you have lots of fetch type legs on your typical courses and only then in wind over 15mph so you can plane. I race against Tasars on my small shifty pond and beat them on the water in a Laser! IMHO for doing well to yardstick on a small shifty pond you needs a hard chined boat, this ensures that when you get a puff you use the extra wind to go forward rather than sideways. In boats like Lasers (and I assume Tasars) when you get a puff you go sideways first before going forwards. Things like Ents, Grads and Phantoms do well on my puddle. What are the main classes on your lake? Can you not get one of them? Your other half will learn quicker and enjoy it more if you are racing with others on even terms, she will appreciate that the bad tack you just did cost you a place, in a handicap race she wont notice.
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damp_freddie
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Posted: 29 Aug 09 at 8:52pm |
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The tasar is really good value for money, I have had two older boats and they were light and fast...in fact i think it was 271 which won several nationals.
I saw three boats of various ages having tight racing up at Helensburgh SC on a recent visit. Sexy milars indeed! Mckee brothers are rock stars , with wives, in the tasar from the US 49er team, but yeah it has been a while since anyone gave the boat more profile. Remember, if you are sailing in the windy old winter, the 'design wind' of the tasar is 9knts....there after you are depowering by flattening the sails, opening the slot and using the traveller to sheet the main, with the kicker pulled hard for big depowers. " total and simple sailing and racing" was supposedly the acronym for the boat but bit of a nasty shock when a non spinn, non trap boat glides past you is more like it! |
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 29 Aug 09 at 8:34pm |
Rick, Charlies girlfriend will be alight in the winter, she is irish so is used to the cold and wet. She has sailed a fair ammount with Charlie in the past and i doubt he will give her a dunking in a boat like a taser! Charlie a Taser looks like its the boat for you fella! |
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