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    Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 12:49am
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Originally posted by 5420

yer i think it is time to get a boat like a rs700 in the olinpiks


What you've got to remember about getting boats into the Olympics is that its going to be an International Class, and probably one that is sailed in a lot of countries.

Whatever you may think of them its for sure that the UK smods have a poor record of getting adopted in other countries. This is a list of the current International classes with which country I think they originated in and what decade (I could be wrong about some of these)

1990s
29ER AUS/UK
49ER AUS/USA/JPN

1980s
Laser 4.7 USA
LASER RADIAL USA

1970s
LASER II AUS/USA
TOPPER UK
LASER USA

1960s
CONTENDER AUS
420 France
470 France
EUROPE France
FLYING JUNIOR Holland
OK Scandinavia
FIREBALL UK
MIRROR UK
MOTH UK/AUS/NZ/USA

1950s
SUNFISH USA
505 UK/France
FLYING DUTCHMAN Holland
FINN Scandinavia
CADET UK
ENTERPRISE UK
LIGHTNING USA
VAURIEN France
OPTIMIST USA/Scandinavia

1940s
SNIPE USA   

1930s
14 UK


You can see that the only UK SMD to feature is the Topper, and its a mystery to me how that keeps its international status, it must be clinging to the countries/continents requirement by the skin of its teeth. All the recent classes have been USA and AUS, and the Bethwaites, with 3 International and also two recognised classes, are the kings of modern dinghy design. Its also well worth noting that the Bethwaitea have very strong USA connections, especially with Ian Bruce, the Laser designer of course - the Bruce/Bethwaite combination has an almost complete dominance of recent International classes!

So the smart money is that a new design Olympic singlehander would be a Bruce/Bethwaite concept, orginating in USA/Australia, and almost certainly not a product of the UK factories. Unless of course the times change!


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do not foget that a olympic claas has to be an international claas for 10 years befor it can be chosen dont ask my why but this is a stupid rule and you are going to say how did the 49er get in then that got in because they liked it so much they broke the rule but when you think about it this means that no RS boat can be in the olympic yet nor the musto skiff
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but if they broke it once they might breake it again, though not likely.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by 5420

do not foget that a olympic claas has to be an international claas for 10 years befor it can be chosen


News to me... Where did you find that?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 8:01pm
yeah, i'm not sure that's correct because the byte c2 was considered and that's new from last year...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harry44981! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 9:21pm
Toppers are sailed by ex-pats in dubai (+various other nationalities there), and have a fleet in Japan.
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i read about an olimpik class haveing to be an international foir 10 years i can not remeber what it was in i think it was in dinghy sailing magazen but i think they are starting to inore the rules because they had to inore for the 49er because they liked it so much  

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I think that english builder will have a chance to get some olympic classes when they will try to sell their boats abroad.

Actually you have few chance to get a RS boat outside UK and poor esperance to buy a musto outside Europe.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by 5420

i read about an olimpik class haveing to be an
international foir 10 years i can not remeber what it was in i think it was
in dinghy sailing magazen but i think they are starting to inore the rules
because they had to inore for the 49er because they liked it so much  [/
P]



Not being a Olympic committee member i would only be guessing but I
am sure the reason the 49er got into the Sydney Olympics was more to
do with the Australians love of spectator based sailing (18's e.t.c) And it
being a very tele-visual boat. Oh and the designer was from Oz!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Spot192 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 7:49pm
isnīt the rthing with the olympic classes also something like politics? the one who has the most influence in the sport gets their class in. i think itīs all based on profit. thatīs the way it seems to me. 
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