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    Posted: 20 Jan 09 at 6:24am

I am soon to turn 50 and have been a windsurfer for 30 years, sailing everything from shortboards to raceboards, waves, flat water and speed. I would say my level is advanced and I sail every week.

 

In the past 12 years I have had 2 neck operations for disc fusion, but i have remained fixed on my windsurfing passion. However, in the past few weeks I am beginning to feel some slight neck discomfort again, probably due to always sailing so powered up and pushing the limits + the rigs are not getting any lighter and where I am based in Singapore, big rigs are the order of the day.

I am thinking if it is time to retire from windsurfing, but it will be hard to give the sport up, unless I can find another water based sport with a similar adrenalin rush, that is kinder on my neck(and body) in general.

 

Since I have the need for speed, the single handed boats such as an RS700 and MPS, appeal. The question is, being a complete nob at yachting, are these boats too physically demanding and impossible to learn on?

 

The wind here is often 0-10K, occasionally 10-20k, so plenty of gentle breezes for learning and warm water for plenty of falling in. I can get basic sailing instruction on lasers etc.

 

There are big laser fleets here, but sorry to say with the speed element they are not my thing.

 

Any comments appreciated.

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The Person you want to talk to is G.R.F he was a top windsurfer in his day and is still very good now, he is aproaching 60 if not older .

He moved from windsurfing straight into a musto and he found it a great struggle.

My advice would be to start in a laser or something slower to get the skills then move into something faster.

The 700 and musto are some of the most difficult boats around to sail and even the top people can struggle at times, and it would be highly likely you will either damage yourself or the boat in the learning process and neither of the boats are cheap but lasers are.

If you want to feel a sheer sence of speed without too much of a learning curve then i would recommend a catameran they are much more stable and can reach greater speeds than most dinghies.

 

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Dan

Thanks for the fast reply. What options would you suggest for single handed cats?

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if you have the money the F16 cats are very quick, also look at the Hobie FX1 or some of the A class catamerans.
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I'll take a look. Money may not be an issue as loads of the latest windsurf gear would be up for sale.

Thanks for your input

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If the neck problems are your main concern, I would be worried about any boat with a trapeze - that puts strain on your neck in a similar (if not worse) way to hanging off a windsurfer.

Minimum neck strain would come from a boat where you have an upright position. Racing a Laser hard would mean leaning back when hiking, so more neck strain. Hiking from a 'deeper' boat, might give a better position.
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I think hiking or trapeze would put just as much strain on your neck, because you are still hanging your head with no support parralel with the water with both hiking and trapeze. Could always sail with on of those big neck braces on .

I'm guessing the neck strain from windsurfs comes from your head lurching forward when the windsurf powers up rather than from your neck been unsupported?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mark Jardine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 09 at 10:59am

A good harness should help with regard to neck strain.

With a 0-10 knot normal wind range something like an A-Class Cat could well be the way forward. If it does nothing else, it will turn heads! I doubt that G.R.F. will recommend any type of cat though...

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Originally posted by hollandsd

if you have the money the F16 cats are very quick, also look at the Hobie FX1 or some of the A class catamerans.

 

If you are UK based; ignore the FX1.  By an A class if you do not want a Spi to play with as well; if you want a Spi; Buy either a Shadown (pure single hander) or an F16 as you have the option of a crew as well.

F16 and A class are about the same speed around the course; A faster upwind, F16 faster down.

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Some advice/opinions in this forum are a little myopic ...... try your local club or clubs. You should find most folk are very willing to help you get into the sport - plus you'll have the opportunity to try out the many excellent dinghy and cat classes we have in the UK.



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