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    Posted: 14 Oct 08 at 8:58pm
I would like to know what people think about it.

Especially what it is like compared to a Laser and how "comfy" and light wind capable it would be with 1,90 m / 85 kg.

I am just interested in the boats themselves, I am perfectly aware that Lasers got calls associations, big fleets, training, Olympics whatever.

I am sailing twin wire boats so it is not exactly from a beginner's point of view , more about using the big sail for some Wednesday night club racing etc.
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go for the feva

same size boat but has a jib and a kite
way more amusing.

im 60KG and sail it with all sails going in up to about F3-4
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The Q'ba is a very nice looking boat, looks as if RS have had a very close look at the Pico and updated it. The Feva is probably a better 'yoof' boat but the Q'ba looks a bit better proportioned for an adult (or an adult + child)

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I saw one sail at the club, the guy was sailing it well (adult) and looked ok. The guy rigged it really quickly as it is a track mast fitting. Useful with

It depends what you like, if you want to go quicker then you may want more sail area, if you just want a pootle around, then the Q'ba will be fine.

In my experience of Wednesday night races, its light winds, go with whatever takes your fancy.

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What's the handicap of the Q'ba? Got to be at least 7% slower than a Laser according to my estimates, except in light winds if you use the 1.2 sqm (!) jib as well. But as soon as the boats are moving, the Laser must walk away from it.

I'm surprised nobody has suggested you try a Laser 8.1, especially for Wednesday night sailing.

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i think the q'ba is a fantastic boat .

 

I would like one to train my family in.

Hornet 934 is what i sail

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

What's the handicap of the Q'ba? Got to be at least 7% slower than a Laser according to my estimates, except in light winds if you use the 1.2 sqm (!) jib as well. But as soon as the boats are moving, the Laser must walk away from it.

I'm surprised nobody has suggested you try a Laser 8.1, especially for Wednesday night sailing.



Could you explain the background of your estimation, please?
( For me to learn, I cannot claim to know better!)

Waterline length must be less, but the big sail has got similar area and potentially better shape , gelcoat surface maybe a bit smoother than PE - what do I know?

Laser Standard or 8.1. is the obvious choice, but...


Regarding Feva: On the tiny places I am thinking about asymmetric kites will be useless in most wind conditions.
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RS vareo?
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Regarding Feva: On the tiny places I am thinking about asymmetric kites will be useless in most wind conditions.


That rules out the Vareo too !.......perhaps the Laser/Rooster 8.1 would be a decent choice ? I've just got that very combination but I've only limited experience in the Laser so I don't think that I could say that it's 'just the thing' until I've got used to sailing mine........however, so far, so good !

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Originally posted by skslr

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

What's the handicap of the Q'ba? Got to be at least 7% slower than a Laser according to my estimates, except in light winds if you use the 1.2 sqm (!) jib as well. But as soon as the boats are moving, the Laser must walk away from it.

I'm surprised nobody has suggested you try a Laser 8.1, especially for Wednesday night sailing.



Could you explain the background of your estimation, please?
( For me to learn, I cannot claim to know better!)

Waterline length must be less, but the big sail has got similar area and potentially better shape , gelcoat surface maybe a bit smoother than PE - what do I know?

It is largely the waterline length, but I do try to estimate waterline beam and wetted area and its effects on drag too, as well as 'planability'. I don't even try to guess the effect of 'plastic vs GRP' or details of hull shapes, or rig efficiency - surprisingly most boats fall into line anyway, indicating that these details make little difference in ball-park terms (but still plenty enough to notice in class events where one percent is a huge advantage). I'd say 7% overall is the very least difference I'd expect between the standard Laser and Q'ba; probably it will be 10% or more (i.e. Ainslie in a Q'ba will still beat me in a Laser!)

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