Adopted classes - is it a rubbish idea?

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   Hi all
What do people think about adopted classes? ie a club which only allows racing for selected classes? Do you know of any? How are they doing?
I wonder if, with the high turnover of classes whether it's time we saw then end of adopted classes and let 'supply and demand' take over finally.
Are there better ways of encouraging fleets to develope?

Edited by Matt Jackson

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Matt Jackson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt Jackson Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Adopted classes - is it a rubbish idea? Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 5:10pm
	Hi all What do people think about adopted classes? ie a club which only allows racing for selected classes? Do you know of any? How are they doing? I wonder if, with the high turnover of classes whether it's time we saw then end of adopted classes and let 'supply and demand' take over finally. Are there better ways of encouraging fleets to develope? Edited by Matt Jackson
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Harry44981! Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736	Post Options Post Reply Quote Harry44981! Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 5:16pm
	Budworth sc in the north west do it i think.

Graham Iles Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Graham Iles Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 5:19pm
	South Staffs only allow Firefly, Lark and GP14s anywhere near their lake. Although I'm not a member (my housemate is) I get the impression that club is very strong and their members do very well in those classes. I did go sailing with them once when the club went for its annual seaside weekend to New Quay, and the members seemed very welcombing; and there were pleanty of boats there.
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matt.s Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 18 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote matt.s Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 5:47pm
	Waldringfield SC on the east coast, we sail Larks, Wayfarers, RS400, lasers, Cadets, Dragonfly and Squib. This makes for good fleet racing on saturdays and handicap on a wednesday. I think the classes were chosen to suit the size of river.

Harry44981! Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736	Post Options Post Reply Quote Harry44981! Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 5:49pm
	There are some toppers at south staffs, ive done an open there, don't know if they let them race.

iansmithofotley Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Otley, West Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 209	Post Options Post Reply Quote iansmithofotley Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jan 05 at 7:23pm
	Hi everyone, I think that Hollingworth Lake S.C., near Rochdale, only allow certain classes. Their website states Merlin Rocket, GP 14, Laser and Mirror and there does not appear to be a menagerie fleet. I thought that they also sailed Fireflies but that must have been in the past. Ian (Yorkshire Dales S.C.)

Matt Jackson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt Jackson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jan 05 at 10:31am
	So apart from Lasers these clubs don't cater for singlehanders and if you're over 15 stone you have to crew for someone (or only sail when it's windy)?
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ChrisJ Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisJ Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jan 05 at 11:14am
	There can't be many clubs that insist on you having a certain class. There are MANY clubs that ENCOURAGE you into a class that is already sailed at the club. "Encouragement" can mean no handicap racing, or no boat park space, or no-one talks to you etc.

Stefan Lloyd Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stefan Lloyd Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jan 05 at 11:16am
	A club near me only allows adopted classes except in "special" cases. They also seem to be suffering from falling membership. I think "adopted classes only" is a good idea to maintain fleet racing, so long as you can attract enough members for the classes you adopt. That seems to be the issue in practice. Most clubs these days need more members. Edited by Stefan Lloyd

Matt Jackson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt Jackson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jan 05 at 1:23pm
	A problem with that is that if an adopted class falls from favour then you have to attract a new class from scratch, and if the classes you want are fleet racing classes (probably) your club isn't going to attract boats until you have a 'critical mass'. When I say adopted classes I'm talking about places where you can sail anything you like but can only race certain classes.
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