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    Posted: 15 Nov 07 at 10:29pm

i am aout 5ft 9ish and only 67kg. i also sailed a radial beforehand. my first sail was in an A rig and i loved everyminute of it. i now have bought a boat with a B rig. fully powered up in about 5knots. but the boat depowers SOOOOO easily. lots of kicker and downhaul 'al la laser' (excuse spelling etc).

i love the boat to bits and find it great fun to sail on the sea. you do need to be faster and more in tune with the boat. it also requires MUCH more concentration that the radial. but you will feel the rewards. have yet to take it out in extreme conditions. but in a f4 was going nicely upwind with a bit more depowering capacity.

when you first get into it you will be shattered after each sail. it is seriously hard work. but in my view, worth the extra effort. one thing i can promise you is that you wont get bored in this boat for a long time.

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Originally posted by Fraggle

I'm a rubbish crew as I boss my helm around too much. 

Ah you can't boss your helm around if you're being a monkey at the front too!  Mutual repsect is the way forwards! You can both learn together and climb up the fleet - a new challenge!

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as an outside chance theres the 600, i understand that there are few at weston. you would need wide racks and i would think it might be a challenge at your height. im about 5' 10'' and between 68 and 70 kilos. so im right on the top weight range of wide racks and i find it a really enjoyable boat (if very wet). if you want to come and play on mine when its mended (cracked the foredeck and snapped the rudder last weekend) drop me a PM or email (mike (at) ellisdesign (dot) co (dot) uk).

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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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If your after some thing a bit more exciting than the Laser Europe, Byte option there is always the International Canoe.

 

Asymetric or standard mode available to suit your sailing venue. Plus your the 'right' weight for one!

 

Try and get a go in one - it will blow you away up wind....

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The RS300 is the one that appeals most for boat itself but fleet racing is non existent in the class at my club whereas the Europe has a fleet.  No offence to Byte sailors but they seem too small and slow to me.  Will see what I think of the Europe this weekend and if the RS300's at my club appear over the winter will try and get a go on one of them too.

Used to sail double handed but have no crew anymore and I'm a rubbish crew as I boss my helm around too much.  Had a go helming an RS800 a few months ago which I really enjoyed (even when I tacked without unhooking ooops!) but no one to sail with regularly.  Plus my OH is trying to convince me to stick with radial as he's a laser sailor and makes things much easier for travelling to events.

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Originally posted by tack'ho

 

ps. How many people under 70 kgs or using the A rig have placed top 5 in the Nats?

Out of 31 boats, on first count there were 3 A rigs and one in the top ten. Does that count? Ok you have to be good, but not a sailing God and besdies, the 300 will improve you to the required standard provided you stick with it. It worked for me!

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rs300s are very cool if you want a good single hander - i'm a very similar build to you and have sailed one before, didnt fnd it much struggle, and there was a fair bit fo wind, but try it before you buy, you need to be quite nimble and fast reactions. They sit quite high when you capsize, heehee.

Have you thought about going double handed? There's a lot to be said for sailing with someone else, as either helm or crew, you learn a lot. I crewed after helming for ages, and am addicted now. Its a great tool to have.

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There is a subtle difference between 'all' and 'a lot'!  And you will also notice I said unless your good (not my exact phrase but...)

ps. How many people under 70 kgs or using the A rig have placed top 5 in the Nats?

Agreed about making sure you try though!

I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Originally posted by tack'ho

Honestly a 300 would be great but unless you are sh** hot they can be a real handful for someone of your weight in big wind and waves (even the A rig).  You will find that a lot of the lightweights in the class sail inland!

where did you get that interesting fact from? I think it is safe to say that the sailors are evenly split between sea and pond.  See the photos below. Two of the lightest sailors in the fleet sailing A rigs at the 2006 nats on the same day. One is a pond and one is a sea sailor. Can you tell which? 

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I think you should try all the boats that appeal before parting with hard eraned cash.
 
Oh yes, it;s also more fun trying out lots of boats


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Post Options Post Options   Quote tack'ho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 07 at 12:35pm

I would have to agree either a europe or a Byte CII (I now have both!)  Honestly a 300 would be great but unless you are sh** hot they can be a real handful for someone of your weight in big wind and waves (even the A rig).  You will find that a lot of the lightweights in the class sail inland!

The Byte has a great rig and you will be able to sail it in any wind, speak to Maggie or Olwen to arrange a ride at Weston, they both sail there.

As for the Europe I'm to new to offer much of an opinion but I have chosen to buy one!

I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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