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k_kirk ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 May 06 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 172 |
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Hi, I have a quick question. Hope you can help me yet again. I occasionally participate in club races in tthe 29erXX and given the club only has Lasers & Bytes in the Dinghy Open class thats mostly what I race against. Mostly sailing on my own, I find it difficult to hold the start line by backing the main or jib etc so trying alternate techniques to get the best start possible. The fact that the Lasers & Bytes just sit there pre-start isn't helping me in finding space to punch through but thats what I try to do. I go on a reach back & forth along the line pattern few boat lengths away from the start line, time my arrival and just as the others are crossing the line heat it up into clausehall and head towards the line. Most of the time I get stuck behind them etc. What techniques work for you in similar situations? Thanks for your help. |
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ChrisJ ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337 |
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How long are the start lines? How biased are they to one end or the other? You might find that its well worth starting at the "wrong" end in clear wind, just so you can start at speed and get clear. The other option is to identify the people who finish towards the back of the fleet, and make sure you start next to them! They will always leave more of a gap and be less aggressive on the start lines than those that finish at the front. |
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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This is a similar problem to wrighty's ( http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3 363&PN=3) Best advice, assuming a windward start is to do a port-hand flyer, ducking the whole starboard fleet if necessary. You'll be in clear air and get up to your max speed and height. By the time you reach the top mark, the Lasers will be long gone. Edited by English Dave |
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Just start on port; pop through a gap or duck the fleet and put the bow down.
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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A great way of slowing the 29er down by the line is sinking the transom, just don't overdo it!
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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in the 600 i stick the rack in the water but the 9er doesnt have racks does it?
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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k_kirk ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 May 06 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 172 |
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Start line is very short. Course is small as well. Optimized to run 4 races in one afternoon. Good advice. Thanks
Yikes.. How did I miss that thread. Sorry for the repetition.
Will try it. I know this sure slows me down when I do it unintentionally. Thanks for all the advice everyone. Something new to try next time. |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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The trouble with starting on port in a low standard fleet it that there's always boats on starboard starting late. The conventional advice is to sail along well below the line on port and tack into a gap. |
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moomin ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 60 |
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Another option for those whos priority is clean air is come in behind the front row on Starbord at the committee boat end with speed and be the first to tack onto Port for clean air. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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you'd be lucky to get through the fleet though, remember, "a boat clear behind shall attempt to stay clear behind" so you cant barge through an invisible gap between all the lasers who are stuffing each other up.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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