What Boat

   I am looking to return to sailing having sailed both Enterprises & Lasers.  I am looking for a boat which I can sail both on my own and with a crew (Wife, daughter or son).  I have been looking at a Laser Vago but am not sure can any one give me some advice.

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Kintore Sailer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Jun 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kintore Sailer Report Post Quote Reply Topic: What Boat Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 10:05am
	I am looking to return to sailing having sailed both Enterprises & Lasers. I am looking for a boat which I can sail both on my own and with a crew (Wife, daughter or son). I have been looking at a Laser Vago but am not sure can any one give me some advice.
	Kintore Sailer

jpbuzz591 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793	Post Options Post Reply Quote jpbuzz591 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 10:28am
	Here on the forum, you might not get the most unbiased views about the Vago. But to me it tries to be everything anyone would want in a boat. Family sailing, trapeze racer for 2 or singlehanded trapeze boat with spinnaker.
	Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol

CurlyBen Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539	Post Options Post Reply Quote CurlyBen Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 11:32am
	I've sailed the Vago quite a bit and I've got mixed views on it. It can be quite entertaining in a blow, but I don't feel it lives up to the marketing (suprise, suprise). I've always used the jib when singlehanded as I've had issues bearing away after a tack without. I've not seen many people manage to single hand on the wire - mostly it ends up with a broken tiller extension! I also know of a couple of issues with the rudder - the bolts on the pintle seem to have an issue with shearing.
	RS800 GBR848 Weston SC

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 12:26pm
	I guess key questions include where do you sail, how fast do you want to go, do you intend to race, how seriously do you intend to race...

mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 12:44pm
	all the usual as jim said.
	600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318

Chew my RS Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chew my RS Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 8:09pm
	ns14

sailor_420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor_420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 10:14pm
	If you want slow prehaps a Miracle. But for what you may want the Vago may well be the best choice. I have no experience with them personally but there is one at the club thats always beaten by my 420 apart from downwind! Edited by sailor_420

Chew my RS Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chew my RS Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 07 at 10:33pm
	NS14 sails equally well singlehanded or two up. It has very small sails, no spinnaker and no trapeze, so is ideal if your crew is inexperienced. It is also about 5 stone lighter than a Vago and is purpose designed for husband/wife, father/daughter combo's. It is roughly the same speed as a Fireball, so quick for its type, but not rocket fast - quicker tha the Vago though. PM me if your interested.

mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 07 at 11:49am
	only trouble is the boats come form new zealand.
	600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318

Ross Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ross Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 07 at 12:12pm
	Maybe a laser 2000? Fairly big and sounds ideal to me. You can reef it, race it, cruise and muck about in it. Has a spinny but not sure about a trap.
	Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it!