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E.J. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
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Ross, if your finding yourself overpowered upwind in a Contender the thing to do is foot off a few degrees and inch out main at the same time to keep the boat flat. This is quick in a Contender as the foils are huge and the resulting increase in speed when you foot off means that they produce more lift, so you will not lose out on pointing either. It seems odd at first as it feels like your being out pointed, but its faster. When I went to my 1st meeting some of angles the top guys were sailing upwind in breeze were huge and very fast but they did'nt lose very much in height. when you feather the sail to windward the foils stall and you will go sideways alot, this happens more in the Contender than say a Laser as again the centreboard is big. It also helps not to put it fully down in trapezing winds, 3/4 down is enough. Of course this is only what I have found, others Contender sailors will have their own ways of getting upwind fast.
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Ross ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163 |
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Visualization does help with nailing technique and maneuvers. It definitely helped me when I was first learning center main tacking and gybing. Nothing beats going out and drilling it though. Which is what I'm going to be doing, just finding my own technique and feel of the boat.
When going upwind, I found it a lot easer to feather the boat just so it began to luff slightly if I was getting overpowered, rather than play the main as much as I would in a say a laser or a topper. |
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ColH ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 242 |
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Last steep learning I had to do: the technique I used was, on the way home after each sail (or in the bath later!), think about what manoeuvres etc went wrong. Then I'd picture it back in my mind and try to work out where it was exactly that it was going wrong - helps focus the mind not just on "god my tacking was awful", but why it was awful and what specifically to concentrate on improving on next time. This probably sounds obvious, but simply spending some time properly thinking back on the various cock-ups really did help. Equally important is to contemplate the things which went well and again, understand why they went well so you know to repeat next time. All this was, as it happens, on a Contender! (I suspect I'll be going thru it again in the 'ball soon, once I get on the water) |
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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I did my first contender open this year - Billy No Mates - I was last contender but I learnt masses and all the guys were really friendly. I'm going to the Nationals next weekend, mostly for the learning experience, and, depending on how it goes may well go to the worlds in Holland. I've done lots of racing, but this boat is all about technique, so like Chris 249 says above, I'm doing more training on my own than at opens. Besides, from what I can make out, most of this year's opens have been crash and burn sessions....
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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I kept track of the training the multiple Contender world champ Arthur Brett did, as we were rivals and team-mates way back when in boards. He's a great bloke. He did an enormous amount of training [I} outside of regattas and I'm fairly sure he believed that was when you learned how to win. For example,I think when he found he had a problem getting lee-bowed he would sail at night (before and after work) with a training partner on his lee bow and his coach in a RIB. You just don't get hour after hour of that sort of specific training in regattas. Edited by Chris 249 |
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foaminatthedeck ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 18 May 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 318 |
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Not sure that I even met that requirment when I started going to contender open meetings yet everyone was frindly and very supportive, even when I came 9th on the first day due to light wind luck! |
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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As far as I'm aware there is no minimum sailing requirement to take part in the majority of sailing events so go for it. I think that as long as you can keep the boat upright and in control the majority of the time then the only real way to improve is to get involved in regattas. Good luck!
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BEARFOOT DESIGN
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Alex C ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 18 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 108 |
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Sounds pretty realistic to me... to win it however I imagine is another matter...
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Ross ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163 |
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I hope to compete in the Contender worlds in 5 years time, thats my aim. May be a slightly ambitious but thats my aim.
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jpbuzz591 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 793 |
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that is not easy, even in a wayfarer you are across it in about a minute
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Jp Indoe
Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
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