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    Posted: 06 Feb 07 at 12:45pm

Originally posted by Pesmo

Is a crotch strap viable on a BA to prevent it riding up ?

Kids BAs (the really stylish ones with collars) have them but I think it's more to do with parents desire to buy all their kids clothes too big to get longer out of them. This means kids can slip out of the BA easily. I think the current trend for very high BAs means crotch straps aren't really an option.

 
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I find my magic marine skiff bouyancy aid great gives loads of movement and doesnt move up at all

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I'm going to have a closer look.
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It has a tight strap on the inside, and hardly rides up at at all, especially under a rash vest
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Yes I've looked at the Magic Marine skiff buoyancy aid but it doesn't look that much different from the others.  Why can't it extend further down the back?
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Probably a good idea but decidedly naf looking on the current crop of bouyancy aids so unlikely to catch on.  That's why bouyancy built into a harness would be good.  Alternatively bouyancy which extends down to waist level could then be retained at that level by a belt.
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Is a crotch strap viable on a BA to prevent it riding up ?
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Can we PLEASE stop the discussion about wether it's sensible to wear BAs. It gives totally the wrong impression about them and leads to youngsters doing everything possible to avoid wearing them. I would much rather face the tiny risk and minor discomfort of wearing one than be constantly worried that my son has decided to sail without it because 'it looks a bit geeky'. In any case it's the rules in most locations/events, get over it.

I am on the lookout for a slim BA myself because I often get stuck under the boom when tacking (the boom on a Contender can be quite low you know:-). The current trend does seem to be for really high cut ones. Can't really see from the photo but the Zhik one seems to be a thinner panel at the back is that right?



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if you find it difficult to climb on the board then you have got the wrong bouancy aid or one that does not fit properly. The hardest part of climbing on to a board is to make sure you dont take a chunk out of it with your hook!!

in 49ers most crews do not wear bouancy aids unless it is windy, especially in europe, aus and the usa. ISAF just states that you have to adequete personal bouancy how each crew member on board the boat and does not say that you have to wear a bouancy aid. It is up to class rules and the SI's of event to say that you have to wear a bouancy aid. At almost every UK event it will say you have to wear one but abroad they rarely do other than junior classes.

Have you tried a magic marine skiff bouancy aid or racing bouancy aid?? Both do not ride up and are small compared to other makes.

oh and in Higher and Faster that bit at the back of there harness is more likely to be heavy duty PVC or something to make the harness heavy (about 2.5kg)
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I remember many years ago when sub-aqua diving and dry suits were just starting to be used. People used to have to wear weights around their ankles due to the risks of the air moving inside them to your feet, turning you upside down then holding you upside down with "no way out" (and obvious consequences). I don't dive any more so don't know what happens these days but it does illustrate the importance of where the buoyancy is on your body.

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