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LOL You won't get away with that one, you know... Just you wait, MrB!
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Shocked That's one name off the list for my b'day invites 

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Originally posted by Black no sugar

Originally posted by Ian Renilson

That way you can hold the rudder steady; have your weight slightly to windward; and steer a little too by moving your bum.

Ian Renilson (the guy in the video )

Are you sure it's the right type of forum you're addressing!?!

It answers one of the most common questions about MPSs and 700s "What do you do when you run out of hands?" And there was me thinking you would be tempted to use your teeth (or was this the technique in the Contender days?)

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........  Hikers have got hiking benches to get fitter... I wonder what strengthening exercises you would recommend, Ian?

Just kidding by the way. I'm really impressed with both the video and your "there's-nothing-to-it" post.  

 

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Originally posted by Black no sugar


It answers one of the most common questions about MPSs and 700s
"What do you do when you run out of hands?"



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jan 07 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Ian Renilson

That way you can hold the rudder steady; have your weight slightly to windward; and steer a little too by moving your bum.

Ian Renilson (the guy in the video )

Are you sure it's the right type of forum you're addressing!?!

It answers one of the most common questions about MPSs and 700s "What do you do when you run out of hands?" And there was me thinking you would be tempted to use your teeth (or was this the technique in the Contender days?)

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........  Hikers have got hiking benches to get fitter... I wonder what strengthening exercises you would recommend, Ian?

 

 

Just kidding by the way. I'm really impressed with both the video and your "there's-nothing-to-it" post.  

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Post Options Post Options   Quote FireballNeil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jan 07 at 10:10pm
I find pulling the kite up on the 'ball that when you pull on the pump system it tends to mkae your steering more erratic aswell! I only seem to notice this in heavier winds?
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Hi Guys:

I wouldn't dream of letting go the tiller for a second - whenever I'm hoisting/ dropping I put the tiller extension onto the windward rack and rest my bum on it (as you can see in the video). That way you can hold the rudder steady; have your weight slightly to windward; and steer a little too by moving your bum.

I certainly don't want a pump-action - once you have developed the basic technique it's quicker without the pump - you use two hands and each pull counts, so you get it down quicker - and quicker is safer.

When I first got the Musto Skiff I thought a pump would be a good idea - even if it was only just for beginners - but once you see the technique and try it yourself you realise how unnecessary it is. And it's just something else to go wrong.

You gotta try it - it's more manageable than you would think - and it's a whole load of fun

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 29er397 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 07 at 7:12pm
Not only is that drop not really that slow considering what has to be done, i think he may not actually really be 'going for it ' given that its just a training vid, perhaps this is just a gybe demo.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 07 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by Ian29937

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Originally posted by English Dave

That's good point. How much string are we talking about here? You would have to grab the lazy sheet right at the block to stand a chance.

The MPS needs both hands to raise/drop the kite. How does that compare with the 700's pump system? I know you need two hands on the F16 and Shadow but they give a far more stable platform to work with.

Racing the 700's at the Tide Ride the MPS seemed to be able to hoist & drop faster than the 700 with a pump system - this can be seen on the blue boat video of the 2005 event.

Rick

The real advantage of the pump is that you have a spare hand to steer with,  a real plus for us mortals....

Ian

Because the hoist/drop is so fast letting go of the tiller for a moment is no problem ... plenty of mortals sailing MPS and a few gods ...

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