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billpayer 
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General technique question regarding twin Trapezing.... While trapezing from the helm, holding the main in one hand I.E right hand, tiller ext in the left hand. The main sheet goes over the elastic on the trapeze into my right hand. What this effectively does, is that when I unhook for a tack or gybe, my hand and sheet are the wrong side of the trapeze wire and I need to drop the sheet to start moving across the boat. I'm sure there are various techniques around this, but does anyone have some suggestions? |
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 2:59pm |
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Method one: Just before the tack, bring the mainsheet under the trapeze elastic then reach up to unhook but this then makes it harder to unhook.
Method two: What i do (helming in the 600) is using my sheet hand lift my weight off the wire then when i get into the centre of the boat let go of the mainsheet (and trapeze) then regrab the main at the block. Method three: If youve got a mainsheet cleat (*spit* *curse*) then you can cleat the main, throw it into the boat and then when you get into the centre of the boat re-grab the mainsheet and uncleat it (i.e. higher and faster 800 method). Method 4: Pass the mainsheet to your tiller hand (so holding both in back hand) and use your old sheet hand to lift off the wire to then walk into the boat. I hope that helps and im sure some other guys here can think of some other ways (or explain those above better). Doug P.s. What are you sailing?? Edited by Doug.H |
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Jamie600
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:10pm |
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Before you tack, take the sheet under the elastic so when it twangs free, it goes clear of your arm, this way you never have to drop the tiller or mainsheet, but it will mean you can't hold the handle on the way in or unhook using the handle. You'll have to step into the boat and either stand up or raise your hips, when your weight comes off the wire the ring will pop off.
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Jamie600
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:11pm |
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Oops, see method one from Doug. great minds think alike eh? And post quite close together too by the look of it! |
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Isis
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:14pm |
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Trying to learn to tack a 600 at the moment and I found the best way
for me was to pass the mainsheet around the trap line just before the
tack (passing it to the tiller hand, and then back to the front hand,
but the other side of the wire) and lift of the wire with the sheet
hand. I tried and didnt like dropping the sheet, and mainsheet cleets
are just plain wrong IMO.
Edit: oops too slow.. that'll be method one again then! Edited by Isis |
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Couldnt agree more, it was actualy jamie who inspired me to take my cleat off and the boat is just so much nicer to sail and its forced me to develop better technique rather than being "cleat lazy". Im trying to convince some of the 800 guys and contender guys at my club to get rid of their mainsheet cleats but they all seem to give me the derranged "are you takin the P*ss" expression on their face. Doug |
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Isis
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:24pm |
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slight topic diversion so sorry.. but...
for all you 600 people, are you allowed to take out the centre jammer all together and put the ratchet on the boom taking the sheet straight off there? The only boats ive sailed in about a year have been moths and cherubs and im having issues with silly cast iron bits on the floor that get stuck the wrong side and cleet at the wrong moment! |
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29er397
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:25pm |
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Its the first thing that im going to do when i get my 600 |
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jeffers
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Posted: 13 Jul 06 at 3:31pm |
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I got that when I didn't fit the deck cleats to my Laser (and had removed them from my previous 2). However I was always the one without the fetching cleat indentations in my legs. I only had them on the boat once, I found even where they were the main had a nasty habit of getting in to them. It was the first thing I did when I bought the Blaze, now I am used to the sheet loadings all is fine (until I drop the mainsheet when fully hiked on the rack). |
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AS IT HAPPENS!!! I looked at the rules and queried the 600 mailing list a few weeks ago on this and as far as i can see, its fine. And subsequently just last night i tried sheeting off the boom! However, from my very personal opinion....dont bother. It seems great for subtle sheeting adjustments but when your in a position of need to rapidly sheet large lengths in and out on the main, it felt horrible. Ive no doubt it was just my bad technique but it made tacking and general coming off the wire substantially more difficult. But again, that is just my Personal opinion. Doug p.s. I have now completely removed my old mainsheet cleat and base and will be shortly replacing it with a ball and socket swivel base. Its proper nice!! Edit - i dont want to be accused of having biase towards certain online chandleries so pm me if u want a link to the swivel base (its perfect  )Edited by Doug.H |
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