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phantom871 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 86 |
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At my club there is an abandoned boat. The berth is unpaid and the owner has emmigrated. Does anybody know the details re taking ownership of this slowly deteriorating boat before its too late?
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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At my local club we have a club rule that covers this. I think there is guidance from the RYA as well somewhere. It is something along the line that effort must be made to contact the owner, if this proves unsuccessful then the item can be disposed of as required.
Just make sure you do try and get hold of them. We had a bit of an issue where we wrote to an ex member (who had not paid his fees for 3 years) telling him unless the fees were paid the boat would be treated as abandoned and sold. He chose to appear at the club the week after the deadline given on his letter demanding the boat back. Our solicitors had to get involved (costing us even more money) but it turns out we were well within our rights and he had to accept that. Not a nice situation I grant you, hence why it is always best to get hold of the owner (if you can) somone in the club may have contact details for them. |
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phantom871 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 86 |
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Cheers Its a manky wayfarer but it needs to be kept alive and I see that its only fair to give it some TLC
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Lucy Lee ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 276 |
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One option that is used for yachts is to sell the boat for the cost of the unpaid marina fees, the owner being given 1st refusal! That might not seem like much of a bargin for an ancient Wayfarer. The other alternative I have seen used at one of our local clubs is to ruthlessly re-classify these 'abandoned' boats as Club boats, which are then loaned out to new members for a very small fee, or used for teaching. Great for Wayferers, slightly problematic for 18footers |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Most clubs have very specific rules about this based on the RYA guidance. I'd really advise against turning them into 'club boats' or giving them to a member because it puts members in a difficult situation if the owner turns up demanding the boat back when in mid loan and if the rules have not been followed it would put you on shaky ground. |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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Grafham has a "dead boats" sale after an appropiate period of no fees being paid. |
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combat wombat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
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You absolutely must take all reasonable steps to find the owner.
Messing with anothers property is a criminal offence with steep
penalties, including jail time.
The act mentioned by the RYA is for civil offences (ie damages payable), but there are criminal sanctions too, not covered within this act. If the boat was damaged as a result of being a club boat, it could be criminal damage, and stealing ("intention to permanently deprive"). Very tenous ground, not helped by the lack of certainty in the area. I wish I could say the law would take a common sense approach, but it doesn't... ![]() |
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