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nibor ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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We had a Ghost at Felpham Sailing School (long gone) in 1976. It was like a 15' Cherub - twin wired that we sailed two or three up. It was an absolute pig (probably because it wasn't sorted) that was brilliant fun. If it was not kept abolutely flat it was almost uncontrollable. Never laughed so much trying to teach foreign students to trapeze in a completely HSE free zone that would just not be allowed today.
Unfortunately the boat did not have a kite with it but it was a favourite with several of us instructors at the time. - happy days!! It was brought by Jeremy Sharpe (the owners son) I believe, who was one of the original 18' skiff sailors over here (after his trips to Aus) and they were three wiring with enormous symetric kites - as per the piccies that all look to be from that era. |
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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no pics. ![]() but an old-style cherub shape ( but room for 3 ) and not brittle, more soggy and rotty Jack Knights had a poor opinion of cherubs - "sodden and woebegone" which caused much offense at the time ( 1970s ), but is/was true of many old woody boats. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Easier to start from scratch to be quite honest. The Greg type hull shape was probably not the best platform. Imagine a wider scorpion with a 9ft long spinnaker pole and you'll be in the territory. |
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Rob.e ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
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Maybe the one I saw had been modified for 2 traps, it was somewhere on the IOW. Back in those days it was before the West system, so they would probably be a bit "brittle" now if they'd been neglected! There can't've been many over here...
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booldozer ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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There are some norfolk punts using symetric kites with twin wires. If you're ever floating around in Broadland, well worth a look at Barton or Hickling.
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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The Ghost was a 15 footer scaled up Cherub, I think a Gregory design ( Greg 1 - 7 were popular Cherub designs in UK in the 60s-70s )
Single wire when I sailed one in ~ 1980 - shortly before it was left to rot away by it's owner. |
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Skiffe ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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Why do you want a symmetric boat? If you look at the 12 on the reach you will see the pole is a 3 (three) part item YES THAT RIGHT 3 PART. which did separate in gybes, sometimes all three bits. The rules in 12s' and R's don't stop you having a symmetric kite with a non fixed pole, just that its slower.
P.S. the "Sunset Motel" 12 is being raced by Ian Murry |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Not that I ever heard, but I could be wrong. |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Was the Ghost really twin wire? The little info I've found about the
Ghost was that it was a big Cherub, like a one-design NZ Javelin, and
like the Jav it had only one trap. Was the Ghost modified later to have
a second string?
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Rob.e ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
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Back in the 70's there was a thing called a Ghost (I think) which was a large twin wire symmetric, but it never caught on as it was considered too extreme!
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