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    Posted: 08 Aug 18 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by jeffers

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Had a quote of a couple of hundred notes for a prof respray, most of that was prep and they said there would likely be a discount of several of us got together.



Interesting thought, but the job is done now, I've progressed from 'carbon mast needs varnishing , badly', to 'carbon mast, varnished, badly'.
Most of the runs and stray bristles are above eye level when the boat's upright, so we'll live with it.

A poorly timed rain shower means I still need to put a second coat on the pointy end of a bowsprit.

Quicker and cheaper to do the job than take it elsewhere. It 's a shame so many people seem to let carbon masts get in a sordid state.

It's easier than working on boats in the winter, but suddenly we're dodging showers after 2 months of watching the lawn shrivel?
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Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by Daniel Holman

With paint you will have to prime first then flat before paint and UV laquer, so more stages than laquer / varnish. Most masts are made male on mandrels so would look gash painted unless faired - more work.
I've had reasonable success with durepox clear on carbon, rolled and tipped. Always goes best with a flat back and a glamour coat, but if sprayed in dust free environment its 2 coats job done

Thanks for that.
I've used perfection in the past and it's lasted well.
I was hoping to avoid buying £45 worth just to do one mast.
I think the debate about the merits of white are moot as the class rules are closed and permit only re-varnishing.So, re-varnished it will be.

I'm not a huge fan of carbon on show, it was 'modern' when my 1992 motorbike was new.


Well, as I see it varnished carbon masts are the quickest honest to goodness way of providing visually acceptable UV protection on a male moulded carbon spar. Not the same as a halfords wheel arch trim on a saxo and all that sillyness.
£45 is peanuts when compared to doing it professionally, although most of the cost is in the prep.

Had a quote of a couple of hundred notes for a prof respray, most of that was prep and they said there would likely be a discount of several of us got together.



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It would make sense for a number of members of a club to get together and use one common tin of two pot to recover all their masts...


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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 18 at 9:51pm
Perfection Varnish £46 and a few shillings from my local chandler, debate over.

The bits on the bike have lasted OK due to being smothered in chain lube and living in the garage. FWIW.

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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by Daniel Holman

With paint you will have to prime first then flat before paint and UV laquer, so more stages than laquer / varnish. Most masts are made male on mandrels so would look gash painted unless faired - more work.
I've had reasonable success with durepox clear on carbon, rolled and tipped. Always goes best with a flat back and a glamour coat, but if sprayed in dust free environment its 2 coats job done

Thanks for that.
I've used perfection in the past and it's lasted well.
I was hoping to avoid buying £45 worth just to do one mast.
I think the debate about the merits of white are moot as the class rules are closed and permit only re-varnishing.So, re-varnished it will be.

I'm not a huge fan of carbon on show, it was 'modern' when my 1992 motorbike was new.


Well, as I see it varnished carbon masts are the quickest honest to goodness way of providing visually acceptable UV protection on a male moulded carbon spar. Not the same as a halfords wheel arch trim on a saxo and all that sillyness.
£45 is peanuts when compared to doing it professionally, although most of the cost is in the prep.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 18 at 7:29am
You don't mention which boat but if class rules mandate clear 'varnish' then, as you say, the white/pink discussion is moot.  Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Daniel Holman

With paint you will have to prime first then flat before paint and UV laquer, so more stages than laquer / varnish. Most masts are made male on mandrels so would look gash painted unless faired - more work.
I've had reasonable success with durepox clear on carbon, rolled and tipped. Always goes best with a flat back and a glamour coat, but if sprayed in dust free environment its 2 coats job done

Thanks for that.
I've used perfection in the past and it's lasted well.
I was hoping to avoid buying £45 worth just to do one mast.
I think the debate about the merits of white are moot as the class rules are closed and permit only re-varnishing.So, re-varnished it will be.

I'm not a huge fan of carbon on show, it was 'modern' when my 1992 motorbike was new.
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I can see paint has UV advantages, but I'm not convinced white is so much better than another pale colour. Why not a pink mast, or a baby blue one? You could match a yellow hull, say, or maybe contrast a dark blue hull with an orange mast.

Interesting that one reason aluminium masts became so popular compared to wood was the lack of varnishing needed, but we have gone full circle.
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With paint you will have to prime first then flat before paint and UV laquer, so more stages than laquer / varnish. Most masts are made male on mandrels so would look gash painted unless faired - more work.
I've had reasonable success with durepox clear on carbon, rolled and tipped. Always goes best with a flat back and a glamour coat, but if sprayed in dust free environment its 2 coats job done
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 18 at 10:10pm
Clear coat carbon is just to show off that you have carbon. But it’s mature technology now, so surely no need to boast about it.  Could you vinyl wrap the mast, at least the stiff part below the hounds?
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