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Why is it so wide? I have exclusivly sailed SMOD's for the past 10 years and had a great time in them. They suit me because I want to have it easy - boat off the shelf and a level playing field. But, I have also has great sailing in development classes. I perosnally don't really see the SMOD/dev class divide - I just pick what best suits me at the time However; seems that the two groups struggle to get along; why is that? Rick |
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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I don't pick sides either having sailed many classes both SMOD and Dev.
But I would suggest a dev classes view point that:- dev sailors are feed up with the SMOD mantra that dev class sailing is cheque book sailing, and the suggestion that SMOD's are a level playing field, which is completely untrue. God... I think I may of unwittingly stared another thread! ![]() Oh and I think SMOD sailors are just jealous of our light boats! JOKE!!!! ![]() |
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I think that the playing field is "more" level in SMOD fleets due to the fact the the equipment is the "same". Of course there are manufacturing differences between components but they are pretty similar. I choose a SMOD because it's an easier way for me to sail - I don't have to think about equipment; I just buy the standard. Of couse the design of the boat and the components are a key part of the sport in a dev class it's just that dosn't interest me so much. I think the cost issue is not a dev/smod thing just a supply and demand issue. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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And where do all the classes which are neither (a gut feeling says the majority) fit into all this? Everything from the British Moth to the Flying Dutchman where many builders can try to build a better boat to a more or less strict set of rules? Do they hardly get a mention on this forum because they are ticking along nicely, or because nobody cares any more?! |
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I would call them dev classes or are they one designs?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Exactly the sort of thing that gets up development boat sailors noses. Its equally true or untrue to say that in development classes the playing field is more level because you can alter your equipment to suit you instead of having to suffer with equipment that is plain wrong for your height/weight/shape. |
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I guess that is a fair point; do you think dev classes support a broader weight/height range? Here |
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... was about to say (clumsy typer) here is the weight distribution range of the MPS http://www.mustoskiff.com/facts-and-figures.htm Quite broad I'd say ... Rick |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The older classes are one designs, but the tolerences tend to be greater, and so the oppotunities for limited development. On the subject of SMODs, the main difference in speed, barring helming skill, will be the age of the gear and equipment, which in some classes will last less long than in the development classes - the obvious example will be the difference between a new sail and an old one. Certain one design sails appear to need replacing rather more often than would appear necessary, but to change that would undermine the one design nature of a class. Edited by Rupert |
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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I agree with Jack Sparrow. The overwhelming SMOD opinion is that development sailing is
purely about how big your wallet is and it can be very difficult to
convince otherwise.
Closer racing? Ive overheard comments in the laser fleet about 'him' winning because he had an imported aussie top-section, 'him' winning because he had polished his hull. Look at a development fleet and people will hapily race 10 year old designs against the latest boats and not think anything of it. shameless Cherub plug: The draycote open was won by a boat designed back in the days of symetric kites, updated with a big rig, twin wires and a bit more carbon. Second place was also taken by the same 80's vintage hull design but with even less modification. Admitedly Steve Irish was on the stick of the winning boat but your average SMOD sailor would have given up before the start just because of the psycological difference between boats... Its this difference in attitude which creates the gap IMHO Edited by Isis |
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