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    Posted: 24 Jan 16 at 11:15am
Originally posted by Peaky

Must be a lot of duties!

Our Commodore probably did half the duties last year, OOD and Safety. 
I did double my quota of OOD.
The club is open all year. 
Thursday afternoon through to late evening, safety cover only. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote blueboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 16 at 7:40am
In my experience local council committees aren't so well organised as to have decided everything in advance. Except, perhaps, on major matters.
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Originally posted by blueboy

That's how local government is required by law to conduct its meetings. 

It is indeed, but those meetings are mainly for show and political posturing. Just about all the real decision making is worked out beforehand between executives and senior politicians. The real power is not so much deciding between option A or option B, but in deciding what is actually in option A and option B.

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Originally posted by jeffers

Committee meetings should be behind closed doors but with minutes of each meeting available to the membership promptly after each meeting. This means there is transparency. If you are that bothered about how your club committee is conducting itself join it.


Sorry but if you think minutes = transparency you are underestimating the editorial power of the minute-taker.

I can't see very few justifications from barring members from attending meetings as listeners if they want to. That's how local government is required by law to conduct its meetings.  Staff disciplinary matters might be an example of a meeting that should be held privately, something that comes up rather rarely I imagine.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 16 at 10:29pm
Proxy votes? No.

I suspect from what I've heard over the last few years, your club has a unique set of issues, so maybe our stock advice isn't as simple to put into practice as it might be at my club, for instance.
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Must be a lot of duties!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 16 at 5:17pm
Their is only so much you can say on an open Forum, also once said, you cannot take back.
Proxy votes, democratic or not?
I do not think, (unless someone is ill), proxy votes should be allowed.
Their are only (approx') 50 members at my club, I have only seen (approx') 20 people in 5 years, of these probably a dozen sail.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 16 at 3:01pm
If you are that bothered about how your club committee is conducting itself join it.

That seems the key point to me. I've never experienced an election at a club AGM that I've been at for a position on the committee. I've been told by old lags that they remember them happening, a bit like seeing Halley's comet. Maybe there are places where competition for spaces happens, but I suspect they are few and far between - those lucky clubs. Most committees I suspect are only too happy to have something near a full complement. So if you are really interested in what's happening it's very unlikely that you couldn't find a position on a committee and be involved in the decisions - and also of course the work!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 16 at 2:05pm
Two separate questions. I can see few reasons that Committee meetings should be behind closed doors. I can however see lots of reason for members not being allowed to contribute to meetings.
Observe, absolutely, why not. Speak and take part, certainly not, nothing would get done.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 16 at 1:41pm
Things need to be discussed by the committee, decisions made and then the rest of the club informed. I can't see that all the individual views set out to come to that decision being aired in all their glory will help come to a correct decision.
Joining the committee would be a good way to start, then maybe influence it towards more openness if they really are hiding stuff.
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