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rglew 
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Joined: 12 Nov 14 Location: Broxbourne Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
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 Topic: New double hander advicePosted: 12 Nov 14 at 11:07am |
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Hi. I'm looking for a double hander that my sister and I (a man) can sail together with her as crew (she's 13 I'm 19). We're both experienced single handed sailors but haven't done as much double handed sailing. We are considering a Fireball because the Wood/Epoxy ones seem to be fast, fun and of a lower price. Is this the right decision or is a fireball too advanced for us to learn the ropes in?
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 12:32pm |
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How much to you both weigh? Height?
Fireball should be fine, depends on the weight of the crew. If you are lightish a 29er would be worth a shot too.
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 12:47pm |
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Sailing on a small lake (I assume you'll be at Broxbourne) then you'd be fine with a Fireball - good to be underweight. Learning the Spinnaker and helming with someone on the trapeze will take a little while to get up to speed, but then it sounds like that is the pointof the exercise. RS500 also a possible, or if a sitting out boat is OK, why not give a Lark a go?
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rglew
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 12:48pm |
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I'm 6 foot 2 and weigh 70 kg, she's 5,5 and weighs 50kg.
We do most of our sailing Inland and I feel like we wouldn't really get the 29er to fulfil its potential? The point is to learn so I'm hoping the fireball would be forgiving of a few mistakes early on, I feel like a lark would be quite a lot less thrilling Edited by rglew - 12 Nov 14 at 12:55pm |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 1:02pm |
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I'm 10 stone, and when my 11 stone male crew got replaced by a 9 stone girl I decided we needed something less powerful. The 3000 fitted the bill, and after 10 years in Laser 3000 then V3000, I still don't see a class out there that better fits the bill for a single trapeze boat for lightweights.
The 29er is an obvious option, but I found it too tippy to let me get my head out of the boat enough in our gusty conditions. We found we often beat the 29ers on the water anyway, maybe for that reason. The RS500 was launched as a lightweight's boat, but it came out so heavily canvassed that a lot of lightweights struggle - the two that appeared at the club have disappeared for that reason.
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 3:04pm |
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The Lark can certainly be exciting, but I suspect you are right that the Fireball will give a fun ride. The advantage of a symmetricspinnaker on a lake is that you can run with it, but Medway Maniac is right that the 3000 is fun. Another boat to look at could be the 3000's ancestor, the Laser 2. Very cheap for what you get, these days, but maybe not the same pedigree as the Furball.
If you can, find one of each to have a test sail in - OK, you won't get the full picture in one sail, but you usually get a love/hate feel about things fairly quickly. Strange thing about the 500 is that at our lake it was the heavyweights who struggled - the boat didn't appear to have enough volume for them. Maybe this is why it hasn't taken the world by storm - not enough volume for big people, too much sail for small ones. |
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iGRF
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 3:41pm |
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Or get the real thing, an Alto. Better if the helm were lighter than the crew, but they are an easy boat to sail, even in a blow.
Fireball? So last century dahrling... |
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Do Different
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 3:47pm |
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Good question, who's driving ?
If you are looking for fun and excitement you could / should be fighting for the front. Edit. Sorry didn't read OP properly. Why is your sister crewing and you driving? Do you think you are the better sailor? If so I think you could be just as valuable at the front. If not better then if nothing else your height and weight would be better employed as crew. Edited by Do Different - 12 Nov 14 at 4:01pm |
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kevg
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Posted: 12 Nov 14 at 5:29pm |
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What is your budget? Also what is sailed at your club?
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MattK
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