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If you want a Feva LDC are selling seconds off - http://www.rssailing.com/cosmetic.asp?selection=RS%20Feva
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Originally posted by WanderNoMore

So are Laser 3000s discontinued? I can't see them on the Laser website:

Also I can't find that many 3000s for sale.

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Here's a link to the Laser 3000 Class website ... there's boats for sale area on the forum at £2250 to £3500: www.laser3000.lasersailing.com

I've owned one for 2 years now and am getting into the class racing scene, which is low key. Also sail singlehanded regularly at the club, on the trapeze with main and jenny in a F3 plus. Versatile boat but not seen on the water in numbers at many clubs.

Vandercraft have just started building, having aquired the moulds and rtights from Laser earlier in the year, and will be supplying good value class legal spares. See the new boat next to the Topper stand at Southampton.

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I'd say go for a 200- great boats, but they're quite expensive and don't really have a large 2nd hand market.

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Yeah if you can get easy access to a Feva that's probably a good first step, it should at least give you some idea of what you like and what else you want to look for in a boat.
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It seems silly that they don't come with that sort of kit as standard. I found someone selling a boat without a launching trailer - surely that's more essential than the road trailer!? (maybe it had just broken - who knows!)

I'm going to Southampton boat show around friday - but I doubt they'll drop the price to around the 3k mark for me! Mind you, I do like a bargain - so maybe a loan's in order...! Plus I've still got to sell the Wanderer!

The RS Vareo looks good to me, but it's primarily a one man boat:
http://www.rssailing.com/fleets.asp?fleet=RS%20Vareo

My club owns some Fevas - maybe I'll try taking one out for a spin - at least just to see what the build quality is like on RS boats!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CurlyBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 05 at 12:28am
Yeah, I just saw that on the Vago website, I haven't come across that on a dinghy before. I don't like reefing anyway  I'll have to have a look, the centre I work at is meant to be getting them next year I think but I won't be back there before Easter. Unfortunately, I doubt even the 4k would include everything - they often don't include covers and trolleys I think - it's never been a problem for me before! That's where negotiating deals at boat shows can be good - e.g. Southampton! If you can get there it may be worth going and looking around, I suspect something by RS will fit what you want, but I don't know their range well. My brother was sailing something by them a while ago that he enjoyed, I'll ask him about it next time I speak to him - think it was the RS Feva, which looks like it might be suitable.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote WanderNoMore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 05 at 12:19am
Dennis - thanks, it'll be appreciated.

CurlyBen - I don't think mine was meant for reefing, well if it was it was a bit pants at it! So I never used it for that purpose, but the Vago website quotes:
"The mainsail operates on a one line reefing system – pulling on one control line slab reefs the mainsail to 70% of its original size – this feature, coupled with a roller furling jib means a quick increase or decrease in sail power."
...which does sound handy!

Trouble is, I don't think I can stretch to 4k / 4.5k for a new boat. It does look nice though, especially being able to change the sails for ones more suited to single handed sailing. There must be an older (cheaper) alternative out there?!
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The boat is still in Scotland, its my brother's boat. Sorry we don't have any pictures but has a mint green hull, black spars, good sails, plus an unused kite. I'm off down to Plymouth tomorrow but will e-mail you with full details within the next week.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CurlyBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 05 at 12:08am
I'm not sure furling systems on dinghies are designed for reefing, which is what it sounds like you're doing on the wanderer? The cleats to hold them aren't very strong on the 2000/3000, they're designed to furl it completely away to make things easier when you're not using the jib. Also, if the jib's not flogging it prolongs the life of it. I think Laser have discontinued the 3000 in favour of the Vago - which sounds perfect for what you want, but it's not been available long, so you'd probably have to buy new, which starts at £4000 - and probably won't come with everything you need. I saw a guy sailing a Vago last time I was on safety boat and he seemed to be having a great time, single handed, on the trapeze with the kite up. Again not a boat I've sailed!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote WanderNoMore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 05 at 12:00am
So are Laser 3000s discontinued? I can't see them on the Laser website:
http://www.lasersailing.com/disp/uk/range/introduction
I like the idea of a jib furler, as long as it works better than the one I have on the wanderer...! Mine just lets go as soon as there's a gust - just what you need! (probably haven't set it up quite right tho )

Also I can't find that many 3000s for sale.

- oh and Dennis, ure post has litterally just gone up saying you've got one for sale! Spooky!

How much are you after? (spudwar@hotmail.com for mail / msn) and are you still in Scotland / Plymouth?! Got any pictures / more information?

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