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    Posted: 18 Jan 11 at 8:00am
I don't understand the underpowered comment - the rig looks towering in the video clip.
 
The profile of the main looks a bit odd (I thought this could be the camera angle too but the vid shows it as well) - the combination of long boom, straight leech and very mini square-top - a shorter boom with a more vertical leech would give better handling and look much more modern & racy.   Maybe this is a by-product of the hull having been lengthened - it looks as though the extra length has all been added aft of the mast?
 
Looking damned good overall.
 
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….Looks astonishingly under-powered

I’m not quite sure how to respond - the hull is 14'8" long and maybe (if you are not being sarcastic) this makes the rig look a bit modest from the camera angle.  However it in fact carries approx 13.5m of sail in total set on a very light and low drag spar.  The Icon concept is about ultra efficiency coupled to a low drag rig and a highly developed and easily driven hull.

We are not trying to produce the fastest possible boat of this size – what we are attempting is to produce a great all-rounder that flies in a breeze, is easily handled and is still very much more than simply competent in the light stuff.   It is aimed at a gap in the market currently – for a modern, fast and highly rewarding 2-sail, 2 crew hiker that can accommodate a wide crew weight range …. Icon should be a great ‘can racer’ that suits many locations very well..

You might just have to see or sail it to appreciate.   Come and see it at the Dinghy Show.

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Originally posted by Xpletive

Looks astonishingly under-powered in that pic.....!?
 
Which one is faster round a race track???
 
Or
 
 
Power means nothing without control & efficiency


Edited by Ruscoe - 17 Jan 11 at 10:22pm

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Originally posted by Xpletive

Looks astonishingly under-powered in that pic.....!?


Yes but it also looks amazingly efficient ... looking good Mike ... look forward to seeing it in the flesh.
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Looks astonishingly under-powered in that pic.....!?
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Mike,
Looks good - lots of mast bend considering neither the dowhhaul or kicker appear to be maxed out. 
Do you have a higher res copy of the photo?
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I like it very much, interested to see it at the Beastie.

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Nearly finished the first production hull  ..... and a chance for a few more to see a full set of sails.  Only toestraps and 'dangle' pole to fit now.  (Peaky's one next - don't know which one at the Dinghy Show yet)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 11 at 9:59pm
Hi,
 
I was going through some of my stuff earlier.  I don't think I ever posted these clips before.  It's not the most exciting, and the video is out if date now as almost every part of the design has changed slightly, but it still gives an idea.
 
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I've found one also taken on Thursday with mast shown in full -  it was rather breezy to play around with the main just for photos and were really trying ot find out the best  sheeting positions for the jib.  Maybe some sailing shots very soon.   Icon is 14'8" x 6'4" and from memory the mast is just over 6.5m.  Unlikely to be on the water this weekend as a couple of bits are still apparently  'in the post' !!   The lines are a bit softer and more conventional than the NS and the hull form is 'stretched' even further with a very fine low drag entry.

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