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G.R.F.
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Topic: Devotti Single HanderPosted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:31am |
So, I take it from that Blaze 720 would be the guy at the dinghy show I might have spoken to once? Is it a class owned hull? Who owns the moulds? What's to stop someone just knocking them off and building this thing called something else entirely then, if the class are so pedantic they can't see the obvious..? |
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Inland sea
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Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:03am |
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Blaze 720 sorry I'm confused as to why you have posted the Asymmetric Blaze picture? In the past whenever this project has been raised, there has been good interest, but as far as I know you have all ways stated that it would not happen. There is a real niche here that a Blaze Asym could easily fill. Now the hull is nice stiff Epoxy it would stand up to the rig loads of an Asymmetric really well, possibly a larger main, as well as the additional load of potentially widening the wings like the B14. This would transform the Blaze into fully planing mode upwind and make it awesome downwind. As it will never be as fast as a Musto you would gain the fun of tactical downwind asymmetric shenanigans. Through thoughtful choice of kite size (IMHO the V3000 kite seems a little large) you would be able to get the Blaze Asym around a club course / beam reach, keeping it manageable for the less experienced and enjoy the extra tactics. This would all bode well for the class with close tactical racing and prevent the corner banging of the likes of the Musto and 700 ( I appreciate Musto and 700 sailors that the higher end of the fleet are able to make these tactical gains but for the mere mortals banging the correct corner seems to be fastest) So has the time come? Will we see a Blaze Asym? Only Blaze 720 can answer that ... ? |
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dics
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Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 8:43am |
Here here. Unless there is a decent single hander hiker with a kite there is no life after the 300 for a single hander hiker. May be the Vareo should had been the 300 with a kite. |
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hollandsd
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 10:54pm |
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Graham why dont you design your own boat there are pleanty of resources around today and pleanty of people that would be more than happy to help, building carbon or even foam sandwich hulls are fairly easy to build.
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Laser 184084
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 10:52pm |
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Strikes me that could eventually be a 'sensible' Musto.
Especially if a wire 'option' were added. Only downside, having searched and read all the Blaze X, and Vareo Development threads, neither is likely to happen and with Rondar in the mix, even if they wanted to it would be years before anything happened. Honestly it's like wading through treacle waiting for anything 'exciting' to happen in this dinghy lark and when it does, it takes forever to put it right. Edited by G.R.F. |
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hollandsd
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 10:14pm |
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Graham, no the blaze doesent have one normally, there has been one retrofitted as seen earlier its a v3000 kite.
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Laser 184084
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 7:54pm |
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Has the blaze always had a spinnaker?
And what's it like as an off the beach boat? Strikes me it might be worth considering, I shall go and check its PY. I'm wondering also, is it the boat the French had built with a centreboard or was that something else? The swinging pole thing works only when it's light weather, and it's then one is at one's most bored and/or looking for tactical advantage. Edit: Clearly not, at least it's not on the blaze site, and I've given up trying to join the blaze yahoo group, how stupidly complicated that is. So wht's going on? Another experimental development boat? Sign me up Edited by G.R.F. |
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Paul B
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 6:15pm |
My experience is that it does work... up to a point. You're never going to be able to equalise perfectly, so maybe "Performance Tinkering" would be a better phrase... In the 700, we've seen the Performance Tinkering work really quite well. I remember a very light wind day at the Nationals some time ago, with a furious 65kg Jason Belben getting rolled down the last run by a less-than-svelte 90+kg Andy White. Similarly in a fresh-to-frightening nationals a few years later, I remember Jason winning the windiest race by sailing really well and going really fast. I somehow doubt that those results would have occurred without the Tinkering system. |
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alstorer
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 6:07pm |
Would you really want a swinging pole on a singlehander? Especially a trapeze opne (and this thread was as a starter about hiking ones)? I reckon anything you'd gain on angles you'd lose on swimming after gybes due to increased complication. I may be wrong, but then I'm a fan of simple things. Which may say a lot. |
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blaze720
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Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 5:43pm |
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