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    Posted: 11 Jul 15 at 8:34am
Stick him in a doublehander with a teacher, teach him how to sail. Pretty simple, really. Thousands doing it. It is what comes after that that matters.
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Originally posted by Peaky

What on earth are you on about?


In an obscure, artistic, slightly alcohol fueled, way I was trying to point out that the emphasis on training children, them being 'the future'? may be misguided.
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What on earth are you on about?
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So, this bloke turns up. Middle aged, six foot two, shiny shoes and nice car. He wants to learn to sail, very keen. Just the jobby, polite and middle class. We want to help of course (if only for the first round he buys in gratitude). What do we stick him in for the ole' training? Oppy? bugger off. Topper? He'l sink it, Laser? bit of an arseole' for a learner? Thinks...there is no training boat for well fed professionals...only for spotty kids.

Looking through a cupboard at the club. What do I find? A big pile of beer mats with stupid boat pictures on them relics of 'push the boat out'....you know like the birthday card auntie Maureen sent when you passed your RYA one. Inappropriate, inaccurate and stupid. Anyway kids don't drink that much beer and who the frig uses 'coasters' at home?

What does all this mean to me? (in my slightly inebriated state, nice evening with friends,) The RYA are dumbing the 'sport' down with all this splashy washy, jumpy wumpy, saily waily stuff. 

There are lots of formerly red blooded males out there whose red blood has been diluted by relationships and children but who want to cast off their respectability, stick a foot in a toestrap and plane into the distance.

Another thing. My very good mate got into sailing as therapy after a broken relationship. It occurred to us that a quick add in Match. com might swell our numbers.
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MRSC got a nice new club house with input from "community sport". At least IIRC that's what it says on the plaque by the door.

http://www.sportengland.org/funding/our-different-funds/community-sport-activation-fund/
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Nope - it's EU bailouts for Greek Football Clubs
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Ah....presumably "community sport" is what gave us money for electricity and central heating then. Very good, it made us much more comfy in our dotage. We will therefore live longer and make it unnecessary to recruit new younger members. Result! 
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Originally posted by iiiiitick

I was talking to a friend this evening (no wind for sailing) who used to be director of leisure and sport for Derbyshire, or some such. Anyway he is an expert on all this funding stuff and a good man to have in our club! He maintains that government funding for sport is based on getting medals.


Not that simple. There are "elite sport" pots of money but also "community sport". Clubs can and do get both. "Elite sport" is indeed linked to medal achievement.
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thanks for the tip - and yes, that's pre-start mingling (selected to show diversity, all-inclusive etc)

I actually finished 7th out of 16, despite being OCS and going back.... a good couple of beats on laps 1 & 2 in clean air, plus an amazing newly discovered ability to not lose so much ground offwind compared to a couple of years ago in the Solo, saw that there was still a race to play for.  I'm not sure I'd have been so keen chasing a time on a spreadsheet....   
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There are boats behind you - I'm guessing that was pre-start!

Might be worth trying just a little more outhaul, based on that one photo. Amazing the difference it makes to the leech in a Laser.
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