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    Posted: 02 Feb 12 at 10:34am
Originally posted by SoggyBadger



Let's not forget that foiling moths aren't the only boat where you have no plan B. Most racing dinghies fall into that category.


actually, most racing dinghies are older, and arguably more seaworthy in their design.  Even newer popular classes like the RS200 and RS400 have room to stow a paddle....  In my opinion, I think something like a foiling moth restricts most sailing to an environment with rescue cover or at the very least, sailing in a buddy system with means of communication.
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Originally posted by rogue

 
actually, most racing dinghies are older, and arguably more seaworthy in their design.


I'd totally agree with that.

Originally posted by rogue

  Even newer popular classes like the RS200 and RS400 have room to stow a paddle.... 


A paddle may be OK on a smallish lake to get you back to the club when the wind has switched off but on the sea it'll be virtually useless. What you need as a viable backup propulsion system (which the RNLI advise you have) is either an outboard (can't see how you'd fit one on these open-transomd boats) or a decent set of oars at least 6 feet long preferably with metal rowlocks rather than plastic ones. Modern racing dinghies aren't designed with such things as part of the design brief. Some updated versions of old designs wouldn't find stowing oars any easier either.

Originally posted by rogue

In my opinion, I think something like a foiling moth restricts most sailing to an environment with rescue cover or at the very least, sailing in a buddy system with means of communication.


Again, I totally agree.

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You people need to remember that you have exactly no idea what safety precautions the guy actually took. For all we know he had a mate with a RIB booked to give cover and the rib broke down.

However there are very few racing dinghies that I'd care to sail in open water without safety boat cover. They are, after all racing craft, and you expect things to break on racing craft.

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Originally posted by JimC


However there are very few racing dinghies that I'd care to sail in open water without safety boat cover. They are, after all racing craft, and you expect things to break on racing canoes.

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Originally posted by JimC

..., and you expect things to break on racing craft.

 
Do you? ... I don't.
 
The first rule is that to win you have to finish.
 
If anything looks iffy then address it.
 
I think gear failure is pretty rare these days with professionaly built boats.
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.., and you expect things to break on racing craft. 

 
Do you? ... I don't.

I think if you are going out sailing on your own, particularly at this time of year it's a good idea to plan on the assumption it's something that may happen.
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If it breaks it wasn't strong enough, if it doesn't break, it is too heavy... most extreme boats are looking to be between these two points, so are hardly going to pass the Lloyds scantlings recommendations, are they?
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From his facebook wall (not hard to find), it appears that he had intended to be out with another Lymington moth sailor (and occassional poster here), but for whatever reason that scenario didn't pan out. Also some details of his kit failure, and acknowledgement that not having a phone/VHF was an error.
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Originally posted by seamonkey


The first rule is that to win you have to finish.
 


These are the second and third rules:

Simplify, then add lightness
If it breaks it's too light, if it doesn't it's too heavy
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Originally posted by furtive

From his facebook wall (not hard to find), it appears that he had intended to be out with another Lymington moth sailor (and occassional poster here), but for whatever reason that scenario didn't pan out. Also some details of his kit failure, and acknowledgement that not having a phone/VHF was an error.
 
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