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    Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 3:22pm

That comment isn't really fair Graeme, lots of windsurfers leave a lot to be desired if your point is valid, i rarely ever see a windsurfer manage to tack or gybe. Indeed the top windsurfers manage fine as do the top 49er sailors but "most" who sail them can't manage.

And if your windsurfer designs are so advanced can you get one of them to build a twin trapeze monohull faster than the 9er for us, then we will believe you.
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Originally posted by G.R.F

Well personally, and we're all entitled to our opinions, I think the 49er leaves
a lot to be desired. Especially in the light of the inability of a lot who sail it
to even get it round corners without falling over.

Lets not forget it was designed to be the F1 at Olympic level. Its not for your run of the mill club sailors...

Originally posted by G.R.F

In fact design wise compared to windsurfing and kitesurfing even, modern dinghy design and build is still in the dark ages.

This is probably related to the sales volumes and practicality. Don't know what the actual global windsurfing and kitesurf sales vs dinghy sales figures are like but I am sure you will find that the basic rule of economy, demand & supply is at play here....

Originally posted by G.R.F

Hardly surprising given y'all seem to worship Aussie boat designers.

Can't you read? He is not an Aussie... Don't be sour grapes for sending them there in the first place. They could all still be British you know ;-)
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Are you some kind of nob m8?
I really have had enough of u talking out of ur backside.
Windsurfers and kiteboards are desinged to do different things.
One thing is for certain all though you may see our boats as primitave id like to see a windsurfer survive the rig loads etc my 14 does.

Oh and if you are so interested in kitesurfing and windurfing then please concentrate on those sports and leave us alone
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Ahh, ive missed your enlightening comments Graeme....
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Originally posted by G.R.F

Well personally, and we're all entitled to our opinions, I think the 49er leaves
a lot to be desired. Especially in the light of the inability of a lot who sail it
to even get it round corners without falling over.

In fact design wise compared to windsurfing and kitesurfing even, modern
dinghy design and build is still in the dark ages.

Hardly surprising given y'all seem to worship Aussie boat designers.

 

Yeah i spose your right, i mean a nomex core carbon 14 is still way in the dark ages !!!!  And the foil technology on moths is ancient
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We were making Boards with Nomex core in 1981.

Foils were used in Weymouth by Icarus in 1979.

As to BBSC Faithful's Mensa award winning suggestion as to rig loadings
on a windsurfer - he doesn't really get it does he? They're free rigs there
are no hull loads - doh.

Look, it's no good getting all aerated with me, I can't help it if you're
being served so badly and like i said its just my opinion..

But the thing that really gets me is all the annoying trivia, those pathetic
shroud adjusters no two brands compatible. None carbon sail battens,
rope that stretches like elastic, cleats that wear within months and Holt,
ffs how is it twenty years later they're still making garbage.

I did buy a decent new main sheet block the other day, quite well
designed from Ronstan its new, uses spectra rather than a shackle, has
quite an innovative auto sequence, but in general stuff like that seems to
be the exception rather than the rule..
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If you dont like it dont sail mate dont do it!
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I'm not your mate.

And as for what i might thing about caravans, or someone promoting a
caravan club, the chances of us ever being mates

Are two.

Slim and None.
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Why are you even talking about windsurfing in a thread about the RS500?

RS500 = a dinghy. Built for fun, speed, and exhilaration.

Windsurfer: Built for people too fall off, or air-row. ( Yes, I watched a few minutes of the footage from Athens of everyone pumping their way around the course. )
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Originally posted by G.R.F

I'm not your mate.

And as for what i might thing about caravans, or someone promoting a
caravan club, the chances of us ever being mates

Are two.

Slim and None.

 

You are a prat, mate is an expression used by people of my generation, to acknowledge people they don’t know like "can I have a pint of lager cheers mate” I wouldn’t want to be your "mate" either and by the sounds of the responses to you on this forum I would say you don’t have many!  Finally the Tewkesbury Caravan Club bit is a joke for members of my sailing club (Tewkesbury sailing Club) the chances of you understanding Sarcasim

Slim and

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