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    Posted: 17 Oct 18 at 9:46am
Originally posted by mozzy

Originally posted by bustinben

Hannah Snellgrove, Georgina Povall? Wink  Both pro of course...

Like you say both pros, but furthermore pros competing in the class they sail professionally against what is overwhelmingly youth competition (and is a recognised youth class). 

You seem to be suggesting that it's easy  LOL come join us and see  Tongue

In all seriousness yes, the bulk of the fleet are youth sailors but it's an open adult class nonetheless, and the fact is that the best youth sailors in the fleet tend to go straight onto funding when/if they grow too large for the radial.

It's an unfortunate limiter on the adult participation in the fleet - people assume that because there's lots of youth sailors that it will be easy to get good results.  They turn up, get walloped, and never come back because their ego can't take it.


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Originally posted by Fatboi

GRF. it is a shame that your first reaction is to criticise when this is a racing award for amatures that have devoted a lot of their time I to achieving something incredible. The fact it was done with his son must be an amazing feeling and so.ethi g the whole family is incredibly proud of.

I would love to sail with my nipper in the future to this level. Truly a magnificent achievement and a show that sailing can be a sport for life!


I agree, a great achievement, but in itself it already carried its reward, this clearly is a hastily thrown together clickbait scheme to benefit who? Not amateur sailors, a couple of magazines more like and there are so many other things that go on, largely unreported.

And as I said before in my rant, lots of unrewarded actions although I'm pleased to read Wing-Wang did get some recognition even if it wasn't from the Sailing community. As to competition stuff, there's a young Snipe sailor, she's won two world titles this year, but she's not part of the RYA meat grinder, so it goes un noticed. Her dad broke the round island record time at Sheppey, the Weymouth Harbour speed record has been broken this season by another amateur, - nothing and these are just things on my limited radar.

So you'll pardon me for not being impressed by more accolades being offered for folk who've already been duly rewarded, isn't that what the Endeavour is for?
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Originally posted by bustinben

Hannah Snellgrove, Georgina Povall? Wink  Both pro of course...

Like you say both pros, but furthermore pros competing in the class they sail professionally against what is overwhelmingly youth competition (and is a recognised youth class). 

Edited by mozzy - 17 Oct 18 at 9:20am
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I was going to vote for David Hivey, as I met him some years ago when he did a really great RS400 coaching day. Not only a top level sailor, but someone who can communicate what he knows.

But I lost the will to be bothered after some intrusive questions and then the website couldn't link to info about these dinghies of the year I've never seen.
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Originally posted by mozzy

Great year, but plenty of people have won nationals. Maria was the first female helm to win in an adult RS class, in 25 years. I can't remember another lady winner of a UK adult nationals, let alone one of the top fleets. I also think her podium at the endeavour was the best ever performance by a lady helm. I think Rob will be delighted with his season, but I'm sure he can recognise the unique circumstances which led to the nomination being for her alone. 

Hannah Snellgrove, Georgina Povall?  Wink  Both pro of course...
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Originally posted by Chris 249

I know the GPs had a lot of boats, but as far as I can see there were only two boats from outside the UK and Ireland so classing it as a "worlds" up there alongside that of the Int 14s and other classes is a bit of a stretch.


Pretty sure 3/4 of a typical i14 worlds fleet is non uk.
Uk, Germany, France, USA, Canada and Australia all have strong fleets. Japan still has a few.
Sure it’d be nice to have more nations but it’s a legit international class.
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Originally posted by 423zero

iGRF,
'Winging it' not 'wingwang', 'Nessa' she won recognition recently for services to sailing, she was mentioned on local news, either this year or last, so people do get recognised for their selfless services to sailing.

She was nominated for, and won, the BBC East Local Hero award. She was nominated by her Tuesday morning ladies and the full extent of her volunteering came out. It was nice to see someone who had worked so hard get the recognition she deserved.
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I know the GPs had a lot of boats, but as far as I can see there were only two boats from outside the UK and Ireland so classing it as a "worlds" up there alongside that of the Int 14s and other classes is a bit of a stretch.
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Great year, but plenty of people have won nationals. Maria was the first female helm to win in an adult RS class, in 25 years. I can't remember another lady winner of a UK adult nationals, let alone one of the top fleets. I also think her podium at the endeavour was the best ever performance by a lady helm. I think Rob will be delighted with his season, but I'm sure he can recognise the unique circumstances which led to the nomination being for her alone. 
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