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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I'll take the Tasar at 1018 over the Icon at 969 on the Redoubt, but I take you point and agree that is exactly the case, but then it proves the system at the moment just works for inland only. Like the Buzz, funny you never see those boys racing it on their home water of the Redoubt... Horses for courses, and the Icon now is a boat without a home for average sailors like us, unless you can find a fast red one of course ![]() It needs to be set a couple of points slower than a Merlin wherever that settles, which should probably be around 975 with the Icon at 980 I'd say. Edited by iGRF - 01 Sep 14 at 9:24am |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Just try sailing a Tasar to its PY at Redoubt. With the Icon, i suspect, it may well be possible.
The Tasar is a high-wind hiking boat, so it doesn't surprise me much that they may have appeared evenly matched with the Icon in a windy, open water race. On a pond in lighter winds it would be another matter. And PY's are of necessity averages - otherwise we'd spend most of race days arguing with the RO about which PY suited the day... |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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There were two Tasars that were very good, pretty much matching our shift decisions although not quite that au fait tidally, one got by us but we got him back the other challenged but made a bad tide call and joined all those seeking flat water (flat water = less tide) not a good call when the tides on the push helping you round, the trick is to stay where the waves are breaking and use the channel markers as your windward marks rather than just blindly sail upwind.
Having now seen the results, they both got us on handicap which you can argue back and forth as to the rights and wrongs, they were better tuned to their boat than we, given it's the third time I'd sailed it and second time Andrew had been in it so the fact we were ahead suggests it's quicker, but we had a way better start, but they're better sailors, but we're better in tide, so even that all out it's certainly not nearly 50 points in their favour on handicap, half that might be more accurate. |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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Or the guy in the Tasar is very good, has spent many an hour in his boat learning all its intricacies and can now sail it to its handicap, while your fellow Icon sailors are still trying to get to grips with their boats and the subtleties that make them really go?
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Well that kind of decided it, the icon is only very slightly quicker and that was due to a good start by them, the Tasars pretty much matched them for speed with the quickest one getting by both of the two tail end icons but not the front runner and he only lost it over the water by sailing too high out of the swale into the medway. So one of those handicaps is wrong.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Day passes issued, and 'the loaner' is packed up and ready to roll, just spent the last hour laying under the fully packed boat on its trailer re gluing the flushing strip on one side, we thought there was a tad too much water slopping up through the case.
So, you Tasars can get a good view of our Royal Dirty Northern b**tards sticker then, that is if I can't get a Royal Clean Southern Smoothies SC sticker to replace it. Just got to make some final adjustments to get the Hornet Spinnaker to hoist properly, it only needs to work one side so not too much of a drama.. Oh you weren't expect a fair fight were you? ![]() Edited by iGRF - 28 Aug 14 at 8:59pm |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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... or '03' could be made available to a decent pairing maybe.
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Bellingforth ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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Icon 04 is packed up and ready to go to Sheppey. Definitely one other is planning to go (ironically its owner has the username 'Tasar' on this forum!) I'm sure if someone wanted to crew then Mike L could appear in '03'? So iGRF - plenty of competition for you! Looking forward to seeing you there..... ![]() Mike B.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Dancing Farmer ('Andy') where are you when so needed .... Doh.
I may have to just like the idea of a Blaze v Tasar v Icon tussle this time as a bit of a side-show .... Blaze and Tasar are pretty close on PN and this year will be sharing the same start time as well. |
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Rod Porteous ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
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Five confirmed tasar's coming to Round Sheppy
Come on icons, here is a great chance to have some real icon vs tasar comparisons rather than forumite chatter!!
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