R Speculation

I wasn't suggesting that the inland /open water numbers are calculated for just the Phantom but all classes.  Even if the overall "average" of both inland and open water remains the official PY at least the inland and open water numbers would give you a number to go to your sailing ctte with a start point for a local adjustment.  I've been the only Phantom out at my club in 2013 believe there should be one more this year, but I can't see the sailing ctte taking up a suggestion from a single boat to adjust the PY,  no way whatsoever of telling if any perceived problem is due to a now  unrealistic PY for the waters or my dodgey sailing.  I'm sure that's the case for many classes at many clubs, if there are sufficient numbers to lobby for a local change almost by definition you wouldn't need to as there would be class racing.  Something similar to the new crusier system with a correction factor from results built in to it would be a good alternative, addition to inland and open water numbers.

Originally posted by NeilB-Phantom On the subject of the new R three rigs will cause no end of confusion esp if people swap between them 9 on light days smaller on heavy ones - unless the sail size is very clearly marked on the sail, so its legible from race control some several hundred metres away in my clubs case how will a race officer know???

can't your club just use the recommended numbers churned out by the PY website if it's that much of an issue?

Originally posted by Alistair426 Originally posted by yellowwelly Originally posted by NeilB-Phantom On the subject of the new R three rigs will cause no end of confusion esp if people swap between them 9 on light days smaller on heavy ones - unless the sail size is very clearly marked on the sail, so its legible from race control some several hundred metres away in my clubs case how will a race officer know??? And will they really care?  We have enough issues rationalising a protest for legitimate on the water infractions.... how many times have you heard folks say, I knew xxx hit the mark but I couldn't be arsed to protest....  I know its wrong, but I still would probably never protest anyone in any sailing I do, certainly not at club level, it's just not that important. Will any of us on here hand on heart say they'd 'raise an issue' with noticing Bob XXX used the big rig this week but he's normally on the 7... I wouldn't.   Some of you might, and you'd be right for doing it.   Is it my imagination but aren't RS re-creating the problems presented by the two (or perhaps three, depending on your point of view) sizes of RS100 rig? Unless they sell large numbers very quickly they are going to have the same arguments in the Aero Fleet as the 100s have.

I can't see that they will get any more trouble than the Laser, Radial and 4.7 does - ie, some ROs will get it wrong/not be able to cope, but most will be fine, so long as people sign on correctly.