D-Zero

Originally posted by kneewrecker Originally posted by Null Frankly its not on.  i would of hoped the RYA would of taken someone using their logo a little more seriously...... no it's not, but as Chris explained it seems like a fairly simple and unintentional mistake to make when the RYA publish something in such easily editable formats.   The REAL issue for the D-Zero here is why it's got a 1010 as a number in the first place, which has very little to do with the Aero's 1040.   IMHO- I think it's a bit of stretch to assume anyone at RS has influenced that, even if they are donating a prize.   I know this may strike as a bit of an RS apologist post, but for all I could levy at them, manipulating the PY system isn't one of them.  Frankly I've got the impression that PY racing and its politics are a bit beneath them anyway...    You guys need to either take issue with the RO (and by association, probably the GL guys) or you need to pull out of the event - as Graeme is essentially doing by retracting his order on these grounds.

Edited by Null - 19 Sep 14 at 10:22am

Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by kneewrecker If RS has any influence over the Aero retaining the 1040 whilst the D-Zero gets a cobbling down the ranks, then I think that reflects incredibly badly on them. They (RS) almost certainly have had no hand in that, I'd been chatting to Martin that very morning and they were concerned more at the drubbing they'd had at all you Zero fanbois and feeling upset by it all given they've not exactly pointed out all the faults of the Zero in the way the reverse has been the case.

Originally posted by Null Frankly its not on.  i would of hoped the RYA would of taken someone using their logo a little more seriously......

Originally posted by kneewrecker If RS has any influence over the Aero retaining the 1040 whilst the D-Zero gets a cobbling down the ranks, then I think that reflects incredibly badly on them.

They (RS) almost certainly have had no hand in that, I'd been chatting to Martin that very morning and they were concerned more at the drubbing they'd had at all you Zero fanbois and feeling upset by it all given they've not exactly pointed out all the faults of the Zero in the way the reverse has been the case.

Both these products deserve to succeed, would have succeeded if left to market forces, without organisational shenanigans in the name of the RYA. I am going to see if I can get at the very least a lawyers letter winged over to them, see if that makes them sit up and spot they're f**king up something they should be running more pro-actively.

It is wrong. Just as it is wrong for whoever gave the 'Fire' 1075 when all it is, is a Blaze racked right out, built down to weight, with a smaller sail ideal for the conditions, the Icon reduced from 1020 to 969 arbitrarily due also to someone sailing one on one lake that just by chance comes at a time contractural rights are being argued over and one company wants the other to appear to be failing.

Really we don't want to know about all this, we need a strong Governing body that cannot be manipulated by Event organisers wanting a monopoly or a software company wanting to profit, a manufacturer wanting temporary commercial advantage.

Meanwhile we the punters suffer.

Edited by iGRF - 19 Sep 14 at 10:04am

OK my last post on the subject: