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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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![]() Watching that fella getting thwacked by the boom.. That makes you want to rush right out and get one - not. ![]() Surely it's not just me, but what a yawning great gap in the market, with near impossible rides like the 600, 700 and MPS at one end of the market demanding of near professional skill and hours of practise and impractical dinosaurs at the other end. Now we have a single trap two handers for us 'idiots,' surely a massive market must exist for a trapeze 'trainer' which would serve as a conduit to the higher performers? |
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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There is some relatively big wind Contender sailing in this video...
CONTENDER VIDEO It's on a lake so you may not approve Grumph, but it shows they can be sailed in wind. I remember seeing some epic videos a few years ago but can't find them right now. Maybe try looking on the Contender Class Association site. They do go upwind very well, and they are quite easy to sail. The boom is very low. I found that I had to let the kicker off to get under it as the end of the boom is basically on the aft deck when you crank it on. Yes, the sail will be governed by the International Class Association. They do allow carbon spars which I imagine has improved the response of the rig, and they do allow modern sailcloth materials, but I think the overall shape is pretty much set. |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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Honestly, I do find the Laser boring, not much to do just sitting there, I
read up on the Vortex after posting this and spotted the transoms being ripped off by the fixed rudder, honestly what is it with fixed rudders, my MPS had one, totally hopeless for beach situations. So the Contender, the rig does look so old fashioned with that low low aspect sail and even lower boom, but there isn't much else out there as an entry level single hander for the would be trapeze artist is there? I even spotted one for sale with my old sail number, could it be fate? They go upwind really well, are not bad sea boats and have the centreboard and quite a massive one at that, but let down by such a pathetic rig, I wonder why it was never upgraded, don't tell me - class rules again.. Edited by G.R.F. |
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The Vortex has effectively got three daggerboards, so wouldn't recommend one for Hythe. Do you deffo want to trapeze? If so, the Contender is the only trapeze monohull I can think of with a centreboard. Otherwise there are a few cats (there, I said it!) or the standard Blaze with its wings instead of the trapeze. Or, a Laser. Dead easy to sail and sell on later, and you'll find one within a week. |
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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I sailed a Vortex in the open sea for a year or more and
it had no problem with the waves. When the bow dips it just pops out the other side. However, you have two daggerboards and a dagger-rudder to work with close to shore. They're ali so you won't break them but it's something to think about. |
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Enterprising ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 42 |
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fork me, GRF asking for advice!!
I have a "laser" you can have at a competetive price, if you give me a week or so to fix the small hole in the bottom of it. I hear they are quite popular as a single hander, and represented at this thing called the oolyimpics, which is meant to be a sporting event they can never find a proper home for?
will that do? |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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Either way it seems I may have to make an accellerated single hander
purchase, which means something second hand. I'm wondering Contender because there are a few racing at our club right now, an Assym Vortex cos it would be an easier trapeze platform to slide into and there seem to be a few about but I'm worried about their potential as a sea going dip the nose in waves sort of boat. I had been indeed until lunchtime today hanging around to see how the Halo developed as a suitable subject to convert to trapeze and assymmetric but that wont happen in a hurry, so suddenly I have a decision to make due to unforseen crew circumstances. I'm suddenly in a right quandry... |
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