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    Posted: 28 Jun 07 at 4:58pm

Originally posted by timnoyce

But surely the diameter of the dyneema isn't thinner than that of the wire is it? I would have thought that 3 or 4 mm would be perfect for a cascade, no point going any thinner.

True, but dyneema and lightening rope can be flattened into much thinner than the diameter, and can then slip down the side of the pulley.It can be a big probelm when using rope on blocks meant for wire. With wire this is much less of an issue.

It happened on my strut mid race and totally jammed it up. I've got thicker rope on there now and it works a treat. 
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That happens on our 200 outhaul we had to get a new wheel for the back of the boom as the rope had sawed through the last one.
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Originally posted by MainlySwimming

Anyone tried the new Ronstan Orbit ratchet blocks yet?  The ones that have on / off and auto settings?

yup i got a pair just before the musto skiff worlds.

very cool looking, very very light, they work realy well i was using the in auto mode. and they are not to expensive. about £45 each

but i do have a large ronstan logo on my sail.  
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Bah humbug - I liked the look of the Ronstans but my chandler told me they were manual switching so I have ordered a pair of harken  carbo ratchomatatics instead for a lot more money....... And I still have no blocks for the weekend!
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Just looking at the Orbit Ratchet on the web and saw this:

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|103371|31157 1|833317&id=833019 

Yes - those lovely blocks that bovlike happily paid £45 for are available mail order in the US for $43 (or about £27)....

I wonder how much LDC / P&B pay for theirs.....
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they probably get another discount for buying in bulk too.
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Originally posted by MainlySwimming

Just looking at the Orbit Ratchet on the web and saw this:

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|103371|31157 1|833317&id=833019 

Yes - those lovely blocks that bovlike happily paid £45 for are available mail order in the US for $43 (or about £27)....

I wonder how much LDC / P&B pay for theirs.....



Don't forget that LDC and P&B are businesses though. Their workers do like to get paid at the end of the month just like everyone else!
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I guess from that defender.com is  a registered charity without any workers then.
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You will need to pay import duty and tax. That always changes the maths.

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Worst case 3.5% customs duty plus 17.5 % VAT = 21% or about £33 vs £45 in the UK.

I don't want to sound like a Daily Mail reader but I think we're being ripped off a bit...Prob not worth the hassle for one block, but if you were planning a refit then importing would start to make sense.

Does anyone privately import sailing kit from the US and know which companies are good / bad at it?  From previous experience with other stuff I know some US companies order system come to a grinding halt if you try & order without a US ZIP Code....
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