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    Posted: 31 Mar 07 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by turnturtle

MPS, wins hands down... but for how long is going to remain a non-olympic boat?


It's obviously a great boat with many excellent sailors, but can a class that's basically restricted to about 10% of the planet really be the world's most competitive class, hands down?


Though in the main you are right that it is still a very british dominated boat, im not convinced that is going to last long.  Dealers appointed across the continents and containers of boats having already been shipped and unpacked at australia and america and currently being sailed. 
I suppose lets wait and see what the nationality turn out at the worlds compared to last years worlds gives us. 

I personally think either the I14s or the 505's have the most non-olympic competative fleets.  Oh and not forgetting the fireball of course!!. 

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Originally posted by turnturtle

MPS, wins hands down... but for how long is going to remain a non-olympic boat?


It's obviously a great boat with many excellent sailors, but can a class that's basically restricted to about 10% of the planet really be the world's most competitive class, hands down?
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I14? or 49er?


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It depends on your definition of competitive...

Most difficult to buy a boat, jump in it and win is probably the International Moth for instance, simply because of the level of training required to get to Worlds winning level. On the other hand there aren't that many other people at that level who you have to beat.

There are probably several keelboat classes (Etchells springs to mind) where there are loads of people all pretty much at Worlds winning level of skill and boats that can't go much faster than one another, so that while its far easier to get up to worlds winning speed, there are far more people at that level of speed that you have to get the right mixture of skill and maybe a bit of luck in order to win...
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This has got me wondering:  What is the World's hottest (most competitive) non-olympic one-design class?

The 505 has got to be in there somewhere, along with maybe the Snipe, 420, Optimist, 18ft skiff...

The keelboat list is a little easier I reckon, and would have to include the J24, Soling, Melges, Farr 40...
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Originally posted by BigFatStan

Isn't the 505 a chopped Coronet? Surely that's a precedent? Tongue

But the coronet was never a fully established class.

Can't see the point of an alto, if you're going to upgrade an old boat, there are better ways of spending the money (big kite, new high aspect board) and still be relatively competative.  Keeping the symetric would make the boat faster down wind and the adjustable rig would make it easier to depower.

7544 at the worlds was getting results in the 80's and all the owner had done was get a half decent set of sails with a 6m spinny.

If you're going to fiddle with a boat, you normally try to make it better.  Bit difficult to do this to a boat which is close to perfection (IMO)

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Isn't the 505 a chopped Coronet? Surely that's a precedent? Tongue
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or even your volvo 70 now that would be a ride!!!
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