Scottish Tiger Trophy

   They hired a markee (spelling?) for the youth champs a couple of years ago, could do that again? 

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29er397 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 02 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 505	Post Options Post Reply Quote 29er397 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Scottish Tiger Trophy Posted: 09 Nov 06 at 7:30pm
	They hired a markee (spelling?) for the youth champs a couple of years ago, could do that again?
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Barty Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote Barty Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 06 at 7:26pm
	More excellent comments....keep 'em coming I think that this event should be slightly different from Tiger trophy otherwise it would literally be another tiger trophy. As Chris said different fleets, albeit with a mixture of similar classes, does encourage people to come along. I still think a big pursuit on the Sunday would be good but if we have the Oppies, Toppers etc then it would be unfair to put them in amongst it. What about 2 pursuits with the adults going all in and then a junior one? As for venue, I think it would be hard to find somewhere else that could accomodate a large event and that is reasonably accessable for all of Scotland and the North of England. Where you go there is always something not quite right so it is a compromise. Holding the event in April does reduce the chance of no wind me thinks.
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spin cycle Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 06 Oct 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote spin cycle Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 06 at 3:58pm
	I think that an event to raise money for the jmst in Scotland would be great but I think that you would have to set it up as something different from other Scottish events. Most travellers in Scotland are already part of multi class regattas where up to 200 boats have turned up to the most popular events, eg North berwick in 2000, Loch Lomond and Tummel in the 90's although they became a race managment nightmare. trying to weave through lasers in a 14 with a 100 boats on a fairly large course is not an enjoyable experience. My other point is Largs may have the best set up ashore but after the Scottish Skiff champs and several Cumbraes regattas the actual sailing area off the marina ain't great in due to the land around it. If you do want lots of fleets then it is best to speak too and cajoule the various scottish reps to have a traveller there if you can find the right volunteer extracting different class results is not too hard. Finally ensure you get a very good pro or it can all turn to rat s**t very quickly.

Chris Noble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Nov 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Noble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 06 at 2:36pm
	Im all for a single big fleet, i just think its going to be off putting for a lot of classes or is very weather dependant, brings you back to the certain classes for certain conditions, especially the lasers i know arent big fans of being fired in withthe big buoys so to speak. But a grand pursuit on the sunday i think would be a welcome change.
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Hector Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hector Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 06 at 1:27pm
	The way you're shaping this event isn't much like the Tiger - where all fleets sail together - more like the Grafham Grand Prix where there is a split. I personally like the big 'all in' handicap races - even if the starts have to be split to accomodate numbers. The Tiger pursuit on Sunday at Rutland can be great fun - but not a no wind as recently.

Barty Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote Barty Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 9:33pm
	First (well almost) person I spoke to. I think it would be better that any event on the Saturday night be held away from the club and maybe the numbers would be too high to hold it there anyway!!!
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Chris Noble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Nov 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Noble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 2:24pm
	there is sufficient scope at the club to host the black tie dinner there. Best bet is to contact David Kent at the Scottish Sailing Institute and talk to him as soon as you can, he might also be able to shine some light on the cat scene, he himself being very active on the snecca scene.
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catmandoo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545	Post Options Post Reply Quote catmandoo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 12:17pm
	Cats I,m sure would be interested ,but to include in travellers as with other classes above it would be best to contact the SNECCA secretary sooner than later , a pm to redhotchilicat would do . Edited by catmandoo


Barty Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote Barty Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 12:12pm
	Excellent comments which will be added to the pot. We are in talks with JMST and they are sorting out the contacts for Rutland. I think the Assy's could race on one course with 2 windward marks, the non-assy could include the junior/youth on one course again with 2 windward marks and then have a separate cat course. The cash prizes would have to come from sponsorship and it is unlikely that we would have the same major sponsor so I guess the pot may not be as large but we will look at that as the plan progresses. Anyone local that can suggest a suitable venue for a black tie dinner on the Sat evening? The current planned date is April 21/22.
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Chris Noble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Nov 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Noble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 7:58am
	calum has a point in saying that we already have a bi annual once a year race around the island, but if you wanted to do that just ensure you give the club plenty of notice to get the safety cover in place as the cumbraes regatta takes a lot of forward planning. However i think a pursuit race would be a good thing as we rarely seem to have any up here. In retrospec i think id agree more with stens idea of having a Cat, Assymetric (Fast and Slow split?), non-Assy and maybe a split topper and laser fleet dependant on thenumber of entrants you get in that feild but perhaps have a youth/junior prize within the ayy and cat fleets that way there is a lot to play for and will encourage tight competition all the way through the fleet. Maybe not cash prizes tats really your call might be a good idea but if you are having adult assy, cat non assy prizes aswell as youth/junior prizes this could be costly. But i think the main idea of an event like this is to encourage competitivness at all levels and just a generall big "gathering" near the start of the season as a good warm up for everyone. I think if you can get it nailed and ready to go soon and then start advertising it big time it should be a fantastic event. Someone should contact the guys that organise the big Tiger Trophy and ask wht they recomend planning and logisitically.
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