2019 RYA PYs

Originally posted by Do Different Keep up iGRF; Ospreys have been knocked down since 944, without checking I think now 928.

Not watching them now, not on my radar since I sold the Alto, which interestingly I hear has also upped a few points which basically proves my point back then, the Osprey/Alto relationship was well out of scew.

I'm now living in a relatively PY free world, there are four Solutions to race against and Lasers of course and on the sea I have yet to sail the Farr to what I would call it's handicap whatever that will eventually end up at anyway, so i can't really be that PY sensitive.

It is such a shame though that such a potentially wonderful resource that could be so positive for the sport is in the hands of people so unenlightened.

Originally posted by Silverlode Interesting.   Tenby is pretty open water with waves when it is windy but the Lasers can't touch the Ospreys in most conditions.   Of course that might just be down to crew skill.   We haven't adjusted away from the RYA figures yet but I would be interested to know how the figure of 1078 for the Laser was arrived at - by my reckoning the "official" Laser PY hasn't been that low since 2009.     Was the winner of your series using a carbon topmast?   If so perhaps it should be treated as a separate class rather than adjusting the yardstick of the lasers with the original rig.

It was the first year I really got involved in dinghy racing and started to pay attention to such things 2004 was it?

Ospreys? Can anyone catch them on 944 is it? They are a bit of a Bandito as I recall, racing them in the Alto off 912 and they've been lipsticked, so it doesn't surprise me they'd beat Lasers on open water, just like the Hornet another bandit.

Edited by iGRF - 08 Mar 19 at 1:27pm

Interesting.   Tenby is pretty open water with waves when it is windy but the Lasers can't touch the Ospreys in most conditions.   Of course that might just be down to crew skill.  

There must be enough data submitted from clubs of all types to be able to give a big lake/small lake/coastal PY now, rather than than just overall.

Just don't give a PY at all for a few races. Then compare timings and positions in reverse. If you have good standard Laser results for the person sailing, set the new yardstick to reflect those results. No need to be easy or punitive, just methodical.