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    Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 11:34am
No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Loyboy

No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.

Probably for the best; if you don't want to end up bitter and twisted.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Loyboy

No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.


Probably wise

Very sadly most of the serious sailors have already done so and left it to the keyboard warriors to moan and spout utter nonsense most of the time

Shame really
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:25pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:34pm
Some years ago, back in the days of Dinghy Mag, I was in Hyeres to cover the SOF - French Olympic Week. One day it blew very hard, with a large and confused sea state. I envisaged a day in the dinghy park watching an AP flag but no - the Finns were already launching and heading out. Old they may be and  their heavy weight is a given. But to call a boat slow is strange unless you are comparing it to something else. Nor is the hull shape that stable - predictable maybe, but having sailed one for a while I don't think I'd say it was a stable platform, which made the sailing skills on display that day in Hyeres (and again at Cadiz) all the more impressive. The boat handling abilities seen at the top of the Finn fleet are superb; I can't think of many others who wouldn't have just made it around the course (because most wouldn't have done so) but they were racing nip and tuck all the way. Funnily enough, I think Ed Wright won that event as well and I'll not forget his gybe, off the top of a large wave coming down the run, then a gybe back again that gave him the inside berth at the bottom mark. To say that the top of the fleet, going all the way back to the 1950s are 'legends' is by no means an exaggeration.
And all this from someone who isn't a great lover of the Finn and who has seen that vested interest power lobby operating at first hand........they are certainly well organised. But then again, the points raised in the letter are well made - if they ditch the Finn and fail to replace it with something else for the larger frames/built individuals, what will there be for them to sail?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Dougaldog

if they ditch the Finn and fail to replace it with something else for the larger frames/built individuals, what will there be for them to sail?

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In an increasingly globalised sport (well that's the intention I'm led to believe), then the Laser is already well placed to cope with 'heavy weight men' in global average terms.  Besides, isn't there talk of keelboats?

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The Laser is just another step to the L.C.D. IMHO. It's popular because it was cheap enough and well enough marketed to gain critical mass very early in it's career and, because dinghy sailors are a notoriously conservative lot, it has stayed the biggest selling single class in the history of dinghy racing ever since. The result is decent class racing almost anywhere if you can tolerate the boat.

The Olympics should have a simple popular 'grass roots' boat for men and women (and the Laser does do that, though Aero might be better these days), some boats which emphasise the 'old school' skills like the Finn/Star/470 and a couple of exotic jobbies (49er/Nacra?) ideally one with foils to satisfy those wanting to see the current development of the sport.


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Classes are defined by the gift of the Olympic slot, not vice versa. 

Who talks today of the Tornado, Tempset, FD, Soling or even Windglider?

No class is bigger than the Olympics including the Finn, it’s long run in the games has given it a good masters fleet but if it were deselected it would soon sit on the above list. 

The Finns have a very well oiled lobbying machine and I expect them to retain their slot. 


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Isnt there a,slot for the Finn in the rowing section? surely a better fit?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GarethT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 6:07pm
how ironic if they ditch the Finn due to the gender imbalance problem, as a means of shoe horning kiting in, when there are only handful more women race Formula Kite internationally than race the Finn.
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