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    Posted: 07 Sep 11 at 11:46am
Originally posted by RS400atC

I suppose that's where the dev. classes are? Is there still an open A class?
As in the cats? Very strong class internationally, still developing (they've been toying with wings), 100+ Worlds with good depth of countries attending.
C still exists as a niche, the development side of B got killed off by the OD version (Tornado)- did the D-Class ever actually happen?
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can anyone please translate all the cats stuff into dinghy?
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Originally posted by winging it

surely it'd be Grumpf Advanced Yotting?

 
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It would be great if there were a single hander class to accommodate what I'm trying to achieve, we'd all benefit, instead of being force fed the stuff we have been by others with whatever Agenda it is that keeps them building flawed boats.

Why do they do it? Because 'they' are all very very good sailors who make the false assumption the rest of us should be able to cope with their new toys and then use the crude '80's elitism marketing ploy to embarrass folk into buying them on the 'me too' premise.

The sport is littered with them, RS700, MPS, RS100, D1 all prestigious boats yet flawed with operational issues especially if you happen to be my build, then at the next level, Blaze, Phantom, Supernova, Solo, Streaker, et al, they're old, from the nineties and pretty damn boring, just cos you're getting on a bit doesn't mean you still don't want the rush, as well as the tranquility of sailing.

So if this thing does spawn another 'look' at what folk want rather than what the bearded yellow wellie Frensham dwelling weirdoes or Pasta Lakeland Monkeys want to spoon feed us then that will be all well and good, but lets not get too premature, one Swallow doth not a summer make, she's still got the English Channel and maybe the Weymouth speed week test to take and they are very different bits of water to the Solent at Calshot.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

one Swallow doth not a summer make,


especially when the swallows are flying away to warmer climates....

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Edited by rogue - 07 Sep 11 at 1:04pm
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I wouldn't want to buy into something that looks like a cross between a Magnum lollypop on its side and a lake Michigan scow. All that wetted surface area, and again non-linear drag on the displacement to planing curve. Nah, not my cuppa at all. Wot's the point of putting a (deliberately) deludedely designed, oversize surfboard together with a conventional sail plan? It'll only fit one man's dream, but definitely not mine. I'll stick to my Musto and when I can have a bit of a laugh with my daughter blasting on my 59er or on someone's 49er. But not that, it's just, well, plain daft. Confused
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Dude you bought into a '59er' who cares what you think?
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The International Canoe is a development singlehander.

Its funny, people talk about how there ought to be another development singlehander, but that's all it is: talk. I built one and no-one else came.

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I dunno where RS400atc gets his weird thing about daggerboard rudders from. Suffice to say that we in the development classes introduced them on our boats (certainly in the 80s, if not the 70s, I forget, but I built one in the mid 80s and I'm sure I was a long way from being the first) because we were fed up with lifting rudders which genuinely do tend to self explode if they come up a bit on a fast boat. An RS400, of course, is not a fast boat in these terms.
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I do wonder if there was an element of unfortunate timing there Jim... having seen the boat recently I do think you were onto something, and 'Version 2011' could be more exotic without necessarily the cost constraints you no doubt faced back then.

There were three mainstreams offerings to bored laser sailors kicking around... Laser EPS, RS300 and Blaze. Probably when dinghy marketing was at its strongest too.   Only one of those is really in main active production today (okay, okay... you and five mates can get a batch of 300s made if you really want them...)

Maybe when we've clawed out of the economic rut there will be more space for another development 'class', although why you'd saddle a fluid concept of loose commonality with the dinghy baggage of a class structure I don't know.
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None of the development classes we have are being built at home any more, are they, bar a few people experimenting with the new Canoe rules?
 
The Classic Int Moths in the USA have a strongish thing going with the low aspect Moth rig as one design and putting old rules Int Moths (11ft long, 5 feet wide) underneath. That is probebly the only development class that would tempt me at all, but I can't see it happening at all over here. Any class that has not only chopped front and back off a Laser as a hull, but also done similar to a Fireball has got to be a fun class to be in!
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Both new rules Canoes and Cherubs have a majority of partial or complete homebuilds in recent years. I think there may be N12 homebuilds, but I'm not well up on the class. I would think that the pseudo clinker bit of Merlin Rocket construction effectively precludes practical homebuilding in foam sandwich. You have to be very determined to want to build conventionally in wood these days when foam requires so much less skill and effort for a decent result. Having said that someone at my club has just produced a nice wooden Solo carefully juggled to within a very few millimeters of the current Winder foam boats...
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