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    Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:09pm
Some other videos on YT, not sure they surfaced from searches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8hyKcLcRU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7L2JHYLfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CLwk8NmSg

Plus another one from SA editor witth an interview with Silvio Santoni (not Santino...), Italian Finn Master Champion, Star helmsmann and first D-One owner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlcT4QfbYmk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10VvwLU2UI



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Originally posted by Rockhopper

Great video rodney and sten still looks like the mast goes along way over the bow i know when its blowing my vareo does the same thing but at least it has shrouds to stop it are they at all worried about it doing this ???


Actually, all masts, even with shrouds, bend... The problem is the way they bend!

The D-One has a mast mutuated (but not the same) from the Finn, with a winged profile and with an external mainsail halyard (this help mantaining the mast completely sealed to prevent complete inversion during capsizing). Upwind, it works like a Finn mast, with a nice bend afterward that helps the sail to depower:



Downwind, here came the complications...

The pulling force from the genny can cause the mast to bend forward and leeward, powering the main and causing at the extreme the mast to break. You can prevent this in two ways: putting shrouds on the mast or making the mast very stiff. In the first case you can make the mast softer and bendier, so you can control it with few tweaks; in the second you have to play with precise positioning of the halyards exits (that's why the final production D-One sports an higher genny head point and different profile for the asymmetric ) and with gadgets like vang, cunningham and traveller. Then more speed you achieve, more your apparent wind will shift toward bow and your mast will suffer less pressure.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote rodney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:40pm

Originally posted by Doug.H

The more the boat accelerates the less I would have thought it an issue as it
will release the pressure on the mast. How it copes with a high speed
pitchpole however, will be very interesting indeed. It will either be a big
OOOPS or it will prove to be a very impressive mast indeed.

The D-One mast is based, in pprinciple, on the carbon Finn mast so I have no concerns with this issue. The D-One mast is built to a very high spec to take the forces into account even in extreme conditions and is therefore highly unlikely to fail; unless, of course, it is bounced around heavily on the bottom somewhere like the Chichester Bar (ebbing tide, strong S-SW wind) where I would expect most masts to show their weaknesses

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Whoops Doug,

I should have mentioned that the boat that Sten is sailing has an older development mast which is much softer than the production mast.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote italian laser s Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 09 at 6:50pm
magic sailing again...15 knots and able to race up and downwind with 29 .may be bad swiss 29 sailor..tomorrow sailing again.planing and planing..just awesome fun.....preparing video with onboard camera so you all can see ....more guys sailing boat and happy ciao aldone
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tack'ho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 4:25pm
Well he likes it!!!
I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote English Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 6:34pm

I notice they have changed the design of the wings a bit which does improve the aesthetics.

It will be interesting to see how it sells internationally against the RS100. The RS700 (LDC) is theoretically quicker and easier to sail than the MPS (Devoti) but the MPS holds its value better and seems to be the "trapeze SH of choice". Is this because the 700 is seen as a UK Class while the MPS is international? Will history repeat itself?

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dear dave , do not know hwere get infos from....mps is faster and better than rs 700 and this from uk sailors....d one is beatiful to sail...and really good quality product...now that reports coming out  confirm my feeling sailing the d onbe just waiting fior some frequent poster specialized in critics to look in mirro to see pimps ....sailing is to make friends !!!!!!!ciao
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Originally posted by italian laser s

dear dave , do not know hwere get infos from....mps is faster and better than rs 700 and this from uk sailors....d one is beatiful to sail...and really good quality product...now that reports coming out  confirm my feeling sailing the d onbe just waiting fior some frequent poster specialized in critics to look in mirro to see pimps ....sailing is to make friends !!!!!!!ciao

I get my info from the difference in PY numbers. If you are associated with the D-One marketing team you're are not doing them any favours. You may have missed my point. In fact, thinking about it, I merely asked a question. Didn't sl*g the D-One or the MPS. I'm not a specialised critic (I have the occasional ironic pop at GRF and have a pathological hatred of any dinghy with a blue sail with an E on it - but that's it) and I haven't seen any pimps in the mirro since puberty.

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