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matbard ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jul 09 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
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Some other videos on YT, not sure they surfaced from searches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8hyKcLcRU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7L2JHYLfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CLwk8NmSg Plus another one from SA editor witth an interview with Silvio Santoni (not Santino...), Italian Finn Master Champion, Star helmsmann and first D-One owner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlcT4QfbYmk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10VvwLU2UI Edited by matbard |
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matbard ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jul 09 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
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Actually, all masts, even with shrouds, bend... The problem is the way they bend! The D-One has a mast mutuated (but not the same) from the Finn, with a winged profile and with an external mainsail halyard (this help mantaining the mast completely sealed to prevent complete inversion during capsizing). Upwind, it works like a Finn mast, with a nice bend afterward that helps the sail to depower: ![]() Downwind, here came the complications... The pulling force from the genny can cause the mast to bend forward and leeward, powering the main and causing at the extreme the mast to break. You can prevent this in two ways: putting shrouds on the mast or making the mast very stiff. In the first case you can make the mast softer and bendier, so you can control it with few tweaks; in the second you have to play with precise positioning of the halyards exits (that's why the final production D-One sports an higher genny head point and different profile for the asymmetric ) and with gadgets like vang, cunningham and traveller. Then more speed you achieve, more your apparent wind will shift toward bow and your mast will suffer less pressure. Edited by matbard |
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rodney ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 915 |
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The D-One mast is based, in pprinciple, on the carbon Finn mast so I have no concerns with this issue. The D-One mast is built to a very high spec to take the forces into account even in extreme conditions and is therefore highly unlikely to fail; unless, of course, it is bounced around heavily on the bottom somewhere like the Chichester Bar (ebbing tide, strong S-SW wind) where I would expect most masts to show their weaknesses |
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rodney ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 915 |
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Whoops Doug, I should have mentioned that the boat that Sten is sailing has an older development mast which is much softer than the production mast. |
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italian laser s ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 12 |
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magic sailing again...15 knots and able to race up and downwind with 29 .may be bad swiss 29 sailor..tomorrow sailing again.planing and planing..just awesome fun.....preparing video with onboard camera so you all can see ....more guys sailing boat and happy ciao aldone
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Clean ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9 |
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test sail report on SA Edited by Clean |
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tack'ho ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100 |
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Well he likes it!!!
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I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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I notice they have changed the design of the wings a bit which does improve the aesthetics. It will be interesting to see how it sells internationally against the RS100. The RS700 (LDC) is theoretically quicker and easier to sail than the MPS (Devoti) but the MPS holds its value better and seems to be the "trapeze SH of choice". Is this because the 700 is seen as a UK Class while the MPS is international? Will history repeat itself? |
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italian laser s ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 12 |
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dear dave , do not know hwere get infos from....mps is faster and better than rs 700 and this from uk sailors....d one is beatiful to sail...and really good quality product...now that reports coming out confirm my feeling sailing the d onbe
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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I get my info from the difference in PY numbers. If you are associated with the D-One marketing team you're are not doing them any favours. You may have missed my point. In fact, thinking about it, I merely asked a question. Didn't sl*g the D-One or the MPS. I'm not a specialised critic (I have the occasional ironic pop at GRF and have a pathological hatred of any dinghy with a blue sail with an E on it - but that's it) and I haven't seen any pimps in the mirro since puberty. ciao |
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