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    Posted: 28 May 13 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by L123456

Originally posted by r2d2

Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by fab100


I'm also about to shoot off and have a great race in my 100, on a pond, RTC, using my 10.2 whilst weighing under 86kg


Remind me to drop the lead out of the Solo before we meet at the FOM- it's not cheating is it?

I think I'll get some tape drive sails knocked up for my Merlin too ...

Knowingly breaking the rules is cheating at worst and disrespectful to other competitors at best. 


hello 2457 (again) - do calm down dear its only a proposal - no one is breaking any rules !

Well they will be unless the proposal gets binned and a new one written ...

Can I use an Rooster8.1 on my Laser and still expect the Laser PY?

Wrong. No they won't. Read the proposed rule. And do not accuse me (wrongly) of cheating, or breaking rules. It's rude, libellous and when you have your facts wrong, reflects badly on everyone.

As worded, if it passes, I can still sail my 100 with a 10.2 at my club, under 86kg, unless another RS100 with an 8.4 turns up on the same start line for the same race. Given there are no other 100s at my club, let's cross that bridge if we ever come to it. And please don't assume, should that happy situation arise, that I would not choose to use the same rig so we could have proper, equal class racing anyway, because, of course, I would. Until then, I can sail whichever rig I choose, whenever I like.

All this assumes the rule change is passed by the class members AND ratified by ISAF. Given, as I keep saying, the wording is clumsy and does not achieve what was actually intended (which was nothing to do with club racing, see Nick Peters posts above), it may never go to ISAF as currently written. Meantime, I can sail what I choose, to it's published PYS (my stats for which will have gone to the RYA)

Further, I repeat, the 100s do not have a weight equalisation system, unlike 700s, 800s etc. That we do is a fallacy and an incorrect assumption. Please do wipe it from your minds; some of you are barking in the wrong woods, never mind up the wrong tree.

Is this message ever going to get through???

And no, 2547, you have not helped flush out a wording problem - it was identified and flushed out on the class forum almost immediately the proposed rule change was distributed to the class
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Of which am i right in guessing you are one of them Getafix

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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by getafix

pointless nit-picking posts ....

Actually I think this discussion has rooted out the problems with the proposed rule change that impacted both owners and people who will be racing against 100s on PY so actually I think it is not pointless and will actually lead to a revised rule which is all rather worthwhile IMHO ... 

OK, maybe that happened about 4-5 pages ago, the rest has been pointless at best.... thank goodness the RS100 guys appear to be treating this with the very large pinch of salt it needs to be taken with
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Originally posted by getafix

pointless nit-picking posts ....

Actually I think this discussion has rooted out the problems with the proposed rule change that impacted both owners and people who will be racing against 100s on PY so actually I think it is not pointless and will actually lead to a revised rule which is all rather worthwhile IMHO ... 
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Originally posted by L123456

Can I use an Rooster8.1 on my Laser and still expect the Laser PY?
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Well you could if your local PY was adjusted on the basis of allowing any rig.
 
Well you could if your local PY was adjusted on the basis of allowing any rig.
It's between you and the local PY scheme.
It might mean all lasers would have the PY of the 8.1.
 
Much like RS600's are allowed to reef but use the same PY.
Locally in PY racing, the change in RS100 rigs is small beer compared to whether the course favours them or not.
In fleet racing small changes make a bigger difference as a lot of variables have been removed.
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Originally posted by 2547


I think I'll get some tape drive sails knocked up for my Merlin too ...

Knowingly breaking the rules is cheating at worst and disrespectful to other competitors at best. 



I think tape drive is legal on Merlins now so your cunning plan may not work Wink
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sad turn to this thread, made sadder by the pointless nit-picking posts .... it used to be about a rather nice boat and it's <rather nice?> owners, apparently, with occasional tangents on the lines of what they were like to sail and things like that...
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Originally posted by r2d2

Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by fab100


I'm also about to shoot off and have a great race in my 100, on a pond, RTC, using my 10.2 whilst weighing under 86kg


Remind me to drop the lead out of the Solo before we meet at the FOM- it's not cheating is it?

I think I'll get some tape drive sails knocked up for my Merlin too ...

Knowingly breaking the rules is cheating at worst and disrespectful to other competitors at best. 


hello 2457 (again) - do calm down dear its only a proposal - no one is breaking any rules !

Well they will be unless the proposal gets binned and a new one written ...

Can I use an Rooster8.1 on my Laser and still expect the Laser PY?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote r2d2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 13 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by fab100


I'm also about to shoot off and have a great race in my 100, on a pond, RTC, using my 10.2 whilst weighing under 86kg


Remind me to drop the lead out of the Solo before we meet at the FOM- it's not cheating is it?

I think I'll get some tape drive sails knocked up for my Merlin too ...

Knowingly breaking the rules is cheating at worst and disrespectful to other competitors at best. 


hello 2457 (again) - do calm down dear its only a proposal - no one is breaking any rules !
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by fab100


I'm also about to shoot off and have a great race in my 100, on a pond, RTC, using my 10.2 whilst weighing under 86kg


Remind me to drop the lead out of the Solo before we meet at the FOM- it's not cheating is it?

I think I'll get some tape drive sails knocked up for my Merlin too ...

Knowingly breaking the rules is cheating at worst and disrespectful to other competitors at best. 

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