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    Posted: 26 Aug 11 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by simonrh

2 things to keep in mind righting a vortex were (for me anyway):
-Righting it like a dinghy with mast downwind in a blow doesn't work, too much windage on the hull blows it back over again. Needs bringing up nose into the wind or with the wind under the mast. More like a cat I guess.
-Don't let go of it at any point as it drifts faster than you can swim with the wind behind it.
 
Presumably somme of this would apply?


Yes, interesting.  So, the mast must be sealed and it doesn't turtle.  If it did turtle, could one person right it ?
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Mast is sealed but it does still turtle. It just makes a lovely sunbathing platform once inverted.

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GRF, if you look at that photo I was referring to about steering with the crews ear, I think you will find that it appears that the tiller extension is stuck in his ear...

Eyesight must be fading...blame it on the age. Boats looking good though
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Ah, yes then it was, bloody horrible long thing, I hated it, but they tell me I'll need it, something a bit of bamboo would do better imv.

As for turtle, it's got to go over in order to turtle and only a total imbecile could do that, unless it was due to some insane fiddling up the front whilst still sailing along.

You keep forgetting, it's been designed exactly not to do all those things that happen to skiffs and cats, that's why it has a big volume upswept bow.
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bamboo? unless they gave you a rubbish one, a decent carbon extension will be stiffer. Bamboo might be a bit lighter, but you don't want any flex in your tiller. There is only downside to a flexible tiller, no upside. Just get one that's the right length.  
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Originally posted by alstorer

bamboo? unless they gave you a rubbish one, a decent carbon extension will be stiffer. Bamboo might be a bit lighter, but you don't want any flex in your tiller. There is only downside to a flexible tiller, no upside. Just get one that's the right length.  
 
Or think about a telescopic one. Long when you need it, short when you don't.
 
 
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

As for turtle, it's got to go over in order to turtle and only a total imbecile could do that
 
Just remind us, who is going to be driving it? Wink
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Ah, yes then it was, bloody horrible long thing, I hated it, but they tell me I'll need it, something a bit of bamboo would do better imv.

 
Bamboo!!!! Am I reading this correctly? This coming form the man who would normally burn all things wooden.
Just putting something wooden on it wont make it a classic Graham.
 
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Originally posted by Andymac

 
Or think about a telescopic one. Long when you need it, short when you don't.
 
 
 
are you mental??? when you have that big f**k off kite up and get a little bit of weather heel, tiller loads up with lee helm, boom the telescoping mechanism collapses.......you may even capsize the v twin...not cool, happened to me on my old vago :/
 
oh and GRF, i wasnt the biggest believer in this thing actually working, but it looks pretty sweet, nice one!
 
finally, i found a kind of self tyrimming jib on the swift solo site yesterday, im going to look at modifying it for my cherub for some single-handed action, thought you might want to take a look too. its on page 19 of this pdf : http://www.single-handedskiffs.com/images/rigging_manual_volumn_1_June_1_2004.pdf
 
theres also a pretty nice mainsheet cleat design, and composite layup instuctions on page 29 of this one: http://www.single-handedskiffs.com/images/rigging_manual_volumn_2_June_1_2004.pdf
 
the whole sites a bit of a goldmine for ideas
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Originally posted by simonrh

Mast is sealed but it does still turtle. It just makes a lovely sunbathing platform once inverted.



And...... can you, on your own, right the boat from turtle ???  Or do you have a lie down waiting for the rescue boat ?


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