New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Olympic Commentators
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Olympic Commentators
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 34567 11>
Author
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Bootscooter View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 15 May 07
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1094 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Bootscooter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Olympic Commentators
    Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 8:52pm
So maybe we are doing the BBC a disservice?

Has anyone got in depth knowledge in other sports, that could comment on the way that sport's commentary is "pitched", as a comparison?





I still get annoyed by Rob "Creepy-Knob" Walker and Shirley "when I won my Gold medals.." Robertson.
Back to Top
JohnW View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 07
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 552 		Post Options Post Options   Quote JohnW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 9:20pm
I have loved the cycling coverage. I must admit that I had to Google for details of the Keirin and Omnium, but as with most viewers I am more than capable of looking up the details and then enjoy the high quality cycling commentary.

Why cant the sailing commentary credit the sailing viewers with the same intelligence? But the sailing commentary is overly dumbed down. 

Any viewer is more than capable of Googling "Starboard tack", but "wind coming from the right hand side" does not yield the same results. 

[try it - the former results in sailing rules of the road, the latter results in articles on trapped wind!]
Back to Top
Lukepiewalker View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1341 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 9:45pm
Irritating though it can be, you do have to allow for those occasions when you are watching the internet feed and the commentators have to do an update for one of the 'big' channels they will suddenly for no apparent reason start going over old ground. I think the main problem is that in most other sports with a relatively limited playing field you can see yourself what is happening for Sailing you are limited by what you can actually see on screen which is often very limited and/or at a funny angle... so you really do need commentatorial assistance as to what is going on in the wider picture.
Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch"
Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air"
Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile"
Back to Top
Xpletive View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 28 Jan 06
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 320 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Xpletive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 9:56pm
Anyway - could've been worse. At least the IOC hasn't yet worked out a way of jazzing up the courses with a bit of artificial colour! Have you tried watching the hockey......?
Back to Top
Strangler View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 24 Mar 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 154 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Strangler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 10:09pm
This is how it should be done
 
Back to Top
dogslife View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 17 Feb 12
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 58 		Post Options Post Options   Quote dogslife Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by Neiljbg

Lot of arrogant comments on this thread about the bbc  commentators...they have to try to pitch it for all not just those who think they know a lot about sailing....they have done a great job covering multi classes commentating for the masses....well done to them in my view....

Sorry mate but it appears you know as much as Simmonds et al as to what is acceptable to the majority of sailing enthusiasts when it comes to sailing commentary.
Back to Top
Neiljbg View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 15 Apr 12
Location: Suffolk
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 11 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Neiljbg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 11:03pm
Originally posted by dogslife

Originally posted by Neiljbg

Lot of arrogant comments on this thread about the bbc  commentators...they have to try to pitch it for all not just those who think they know a lot about sailing....they have done a great job covering multi classes commentating for the masses....well done to them in my view....

Sorry mate but it appears you know as much as Simmonds et al as to what is acceptable to the majority of sailing enthusiasts when it comes to sailing commentary.

Marvellous....roll on the beeb for us mere mortals who enjoy a bit of sailing;) Wink
Back to Top
laser4000 View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 02 Aug 05
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 589 		Post Options Post Options   Quote laser4000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter

So who should we have instead?


Andy Green or Mark Chisnell, either would do a much more constructive job.

Anyone on the Nothe's probably heard Andy's commentary style over the last week or so, and for Mark then watch some of the WMRT stuff (e.g. monsoon cup last year) - informative, accurate and explanational rather than being patronizing.

I also don't get the "need to always be talking" which simmonds seems to be injected with - sometimes he's so busy waffling he doesn't get the chance to actually talk about the critical point (e.g. Finn MR NED hitting NZL).

As for bringing it to the 'footie fan' - did I ever hear an explanation of what a windshift was or why splitting to the other side of the course from the opponent was dangerous? However I did quite like Leigh McMillan and his explanation of apparent wind in one of the races was fantastic

So for 2016 team up Andy or Mark with Leigh for the commentary/ Keep shirley for the 'piece to camera bit' and dump Simmons and Rob Walker and his 'schoolboy' style post match interivews...
Back to Top
rodney View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 09
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 915 		Post Options Post Options   Quote rodney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 12 at 6:39am
I was talking to my sister yesterday who knows nothing about sailing (some here would say that's a bit like me then!) and she said that she's watched the sailing and thought the commentary was great.  She said that it's the first time that she has understood what is going on.  I have been a critic of the commentary but perhaps I am wrong  Confused
Rodney Cobb
Suntouched Sailboats Limited
http://www.suntouched.co.uk
[EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk
Back to Top
alstorer View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 02 Aug 07
Location: Cambridge
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2899 		Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 12 at 7:03am
 
Originally posted by laser4000

 
I also don't get the "need to always be talking" which simmonds seems to be injected with - sometimes he's so busy waffling he doesn't get the chance to actually talk about the critical point (e.g. Finn MR NED hitting NZL).

This is perhaps the worst bit- good TV sport commentators don't talk constantly; the verbal diarrhoea approach is something that's rather come from Sky Sports football coverage. The old school commentators such as Barry Davies are rather more reserved
-_
Al
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 34567 11>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy