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    Posted: 03 Dec 08 at 10:55am

Originally posted by chrisg

How about a cheap fat bloke foiler that is a hiker and not a trapeze lash up using old 600's. Something along the lines of a 300 but perhaps with racks instead of the wings and a nice big sail!

Actually I contacted Bladerider about this a month or so ago - asked them if there were any plans to have a foiling Moth with a 10 square metre rig. The answer was no! But they suggested I buy a Bladerider and put a bigger mast and sail on it (but apparently this would invalidate the warranty). Thought this was a bit rich seeing as they can't (or couldn't to start with anyway) make a boat with a normal size rig stay in one piece!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 08 at 11:33am
The "production" 18 Foot Skiff has already been done. The first B18s
('Starboard Products', 'Ella Bache #1', 'Banana Republic' etc) were designed
as simple, clean, cheap 18 Foot Skiffs; just one or two rigs, 14' (IIRC)
wingspan, etc.

Compared to the earlier boats (covered trailers, four rigs, wings reduced
to 22', Nomex, hydraulics etc) they were cheap and simple, although the
first few were fragile.

Development, a few rule changes that gave them an advantage and hurt
other designs, and turbocharging then made the B18 the dominant
design for the latter Grand Prix days, but it was no longer the same sort
of production boat.

The current League/Murray OD 18s are another form of cheap, under-
rigged, short-winged "production" 18s, but easier to sail.


More scows would be an excellent idea; the scow Moths are fantastic
boats. There was also the big YW scow and Peter Milne's big Fireball, plus
the US boats.

Ruperts idea of a big dinghy sounds very nice. Skiffs are cool, but a
modern big fast dinghy could well be much more popular.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 08 at 11:39am

Originally posted by chrisg

How about a cheap fat bloke foiler that is a hiker and not a trapeze lash up using old 600's. Something along the lines of a 300 but perhaps with racks instead of the wings and a nice big sail!

Why not use the RS600FF and put toe-straps on it instead of the trapeeze, sorted!  Less leaverage, so more weight needed to hold the rig down, instant fat-boy-ness

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Originally posted by Contender 541

How about something completely different..

Twin trapeze lead mine with stupid amounts of rag up top and foils to give some degree of lift to reduce displacement

A Tempest on steroids

I heard a few years ago that during the 90s someone was converting an old Tempest to carry a mast head isometric and have twin traps and possibly racks. I doubt it was ever finished/used though - Someone would have spotted it! It would be a terrifying sight to see that bearing down on you, although probably a good laugh sailing it!

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Come on Guys.

Lets get it sorted.

Hull Weight :75-50Kgs

Length:18ft ish

Width: 10ft

T-Foil (on rudder only)

Mast Height: 9m

Crew 2 or 3

Mast head assy, Square Top main which is either flat or deeper for winds. Good Sized jib.

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I have an adjustable cap already. It blows off when it gets windy!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 08 at 3:47pm

Originally posted by G.R.F.

  a retracting CB

Has anyone ever seen a centerboard that didn't retract, either by pivoting or lifting straight up, dagger-style?

In fact "a retractable fin keel" is the definition of a centreboard:

http://dictionary.die.net/centreboard

But OK, GRF, we know you meant pivoting. Just teasing (irritatedly).

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by G.R.F.

  a retracting CB


Has anyone ever seen a centerboard that didn't retract, either by
pivoting or lifting straight up, dagger-style?


In fact "a retractable fin keel" is the definition of a centreboard:


http://dictionary.die.net/c
entreboard


But OK, GRF, we know you meant pivoting. Just teasing
(irritatedly).



It's a hangover from sailboard speak, back in the day a lot of sailboards
had pivoting centreboards that did just that, pivot back yet still remain
under the hull until some brilliant windsurfing genius cut a slot in his
TC39 board and invented the first fully retracting centreboard made using
a dinghy foil section and went on to win events with windy races he might
otherwise have not managed to.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 08 at 6:24pm

I have an RS1100, its a comically heavy german motorbike...

I suspect designing a SMOD too close to the cutting edge is doomed, too likely to be a development cul-de-sac.

How about a stoodent-proof team racing boat? that would be a design challenge!

 

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Originally posted by RS400atC

How about a stoodent-proof team racing boat? that would be a design challenge!

Xenon; they have been given a pretty good thrashing at the Endeavour and come through OK,

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